Return-path: Received: from xc.sipsolutions.net ([83.246.72.84]:34848 "EHLO sipsolutions.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752349AbYGaRMI (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:12:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Vendor support stickers for devices supported under Linux wireless From: Johannes Berg To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Cc: drago01 , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" In-Reply-To: <43e72e890807311005l3fd7823ej68497586ec9ff6bc@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20080731_190531_896310_FFDB3796) References: <43e72e890807301327j54be2453r836964c708d75458@mail.gmail.com> <43e72e890807301358r6d8cadc1j4f40b501319fb7dc@mail.gmail.com> <1217498887.10489.138.camel@johannes.berg> <43e72e890807311005l3fd7823ej68497586ec9ff6bc@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20080731_190531_896310_FFDB3796) Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xHdNOXIVQAtSRmk5JyC1" Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:12:02 +0200 Message-Id: <1217524322.10489.148.camel@johannes.berg> (sfid-20080731_191212_258797_225B81B2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --=-xHdNOXIVQAtSRmk5JyC1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 10:05 -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > I would also add to the contract a requirement to offer Linux support > > for, say, the next five years. >=20 > Not sure if we should call it a contract unless its understood its an > informal contract with the community. There has to be some form of contract. The logo is copyrighted, obviously, so there has to be a contract for you to be allowed to print it on a box. > Also I don't think we should be > specific about a time frame for support -- its difficult enough to get > the driver upstream, not that its not possible I just think it we > should strive to at least get vendors to properly support Linux by > submitting their drivers for upstream into Linus' tree. Support tends > to come naturally after that :) Because sometimes there are users who care. I think though that the vendor should participate in future development by testing and fixing their driver, for at least a period of time. Five years may be too much, given the current chip livetime maybe one or two would make sense, kernel releases are only roughly every three months. Mind you, I wasn't talking about user support, but rather development support, kinda like a SUPPORTED tag in the MAINTAINERS file. johannes --=-xHdNOXIVQAtSRmk5JyC1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Johannes Berg (powerbook) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJIkfJdAAoJEKVg1VMiehFYTpsP/3+h2zlYP4onrOKIhcrpkFZo rs9RLgmVSnu2Pdy6+ij020t+3Gud4XW8iUt7OjNm6Z2rsY1gRJIyoW26xAWvhhdC WQ33NJeiIxhHKkGFPrdvMPP4Vba6j/BMDA61PJa8gD8tV+R8cw90eJ9TPM3XaCLI v1RFw+q3Nf7FQ/bHo/9qHDxQr0DMmhijQUzff1LWNWrQRWWNYI7lllFyxcYE45Ld WIj9ZqbMD9C/6rALWiSgT/KqypZvnQd8lNABVHi9snT2AoUUlrhPY6Bder2ieONf JLz2mzSZCozr6qFkAmT4wOq4jOkY6hOFFbPU7JMqoj7pT6d2IH3bYq2uhVGaBrm6 63XNVaiy2Fh+mqB5BpW6HXcc71xTsApL/37WJW+z42eTKPhJ4iNE77+ej4ds1cuB v8IK4xMDpFIXtkWfb1d7mWfVI1nv3xFNYXDw+8RsNrVPpWFI5E4ldrnr+9axyAwj I3cS7EiHicnLHipKKpS8u7Fjbk29OAZVj2Ld/2tnTN/HkummYOLmbrXOeHAnQjiv p4B0SmGvxUL/PDdETqfFaEeRcXNuvl20OkcbQ2zYbAqnMfxuGaPs9oMpqpoYQTSU wgup7NdegaxNztzDWdruE/+1VXf+C2DJ9if1gsByuPs9uob+nzyEaw3yneeDfqxz qE99qLy3kE9Qvz2ejBwi =jj4j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xHdNOXIVQAtSRmk5JyC1--