Return-path: Received: from xc.sipsolutions.net ([83.246.72.84]:51119 "EHLO sipsolutions.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753194AbYG2J3W (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:29:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Commit 741b4fbc44 (mac80211: fix TX sequence numbers) breaks rtl8187 From: Johannes Berg To: Tomas Winkler Cc: Herton Ronaldo Krzesinski , Hin-Tak Leung , Larry Finger , Pavel Roskin , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1ba2fa240807290226n19ab0944u8e27f40cb688cfcc@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20080729_112701_171733_66AFF6A4) References: <487f5f20.2lT57D3i0q99wrfY%Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net> <48874F09.7060400@lwfinger.net> <3ace41890807281939y462c9b91n5fa952e167b6ff8c@mail.gmail.com> <200807290021.45400.herton@mandriva.com.br> <1217314430.15381.11.camel@johannes.berg> <1ba2fa240807290123n7673dbb9m7121c1e76fe57e94@mail.gmail.com> <1217320089.15381.25.camel@johannes.berg> <1ba2fa240807290138h7deced1cob0836ae3e3c1e71a@mail.gmail.com> <1217322974.10489.0.camel@johannes.berg> <1ba2fa240807290226n19ab0944u8e27f40cb688cfcc@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20080729_112701_171733_66AFF6A4) Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-fkK+W2tFd30i3p30583g" Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:29:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1217323749.10489.7.camel@johannes.berg> (sfid-20080729_112925_744936_66A51068) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --=-fkK+W2tFd30i3p30583g Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > PS setting is rather global NIC state and should be set as user > preference rather then per application ... socket. If I understand > correctly what you mean by application. > What user actually selects is performance/power consumption trade off. yes, but what we also pointed out was that the user isn't able to make a good trade-off, and PS isn't necessarily linear anyway. Therefore, making the default be based on letting applications set what sort of latency/quality guarantees they set makes sense for a good user experience with maximum power saving that doesn't affect applications, if the user wants to go higher maybe we can later allow that in some way, but the default should be based on what performance apps expect. johannes --=-fkK+W2tFd30i3p30583g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Johannes Berg (powerbook) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJIjuLhAAoJEKVg1VMiehFYeTIP/2dn9ImB5m2fJADzwRf0SSOh lzKsmvpuJdzuNCdij+OKG6gnw8iOsljv7dNfjjQvTMabyY/GD9f6umFUjEJDzqMw XaJpyHTYwgu0o7963XE0L9KaDlpxhdy5GwDzkhmMARSsdGUaLG2E44MoTjobPF+f Q5gz3fazY4f5C2NvT9Nzooy8D+IBxzXvNXoDATkRcB85W55Qfv16jTz4L2WcxtqZ emc0tlVNdxWw4NlM90vxfMdn3qu+SYObTIIRtl+Rml1nR4ZT3U9fIg/96I9BPE+6 YdpqgpR9UtyGH4UKlVSwrFskJS1tpUdaQftIw3PoKDZqE6i9dM/KHZuxvY3i/LG4 TrFYFC2Hl8mo+FZjf5UyPceVzKHvtkASx75QerZlUbIofKoyTnphsJ9KU3/wM6Cy ccZqJWuM5XMjFOufGIr7yX2gL9WqWOtnRSzBPtfPuoketj3G+ms8iEmTb2xB4kYT tKUTXyUxmplrvbGcSudaECO8ltRKH+x1P3spNrh5ZxcrZqub5doApahuoeg7lhNN x49oIzBtzilx3/SkkVQprT4oUCBpGKLpmQKa0m5+a/Q5Pib3nyCyRgGOlWYt17od hh8wyAkKan2OrmWQKYp9MUPWKMvaOoLWXm7nZEhslvjhhk2irylrea/jImfDf9Ki oyllGPx+BjPwROJnL7fV =OxbR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fkK+W2tFd30i3p30583g--