Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:51177 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755755AbYGOSR1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:17:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Linux Wireless Mini-Summit -- Ottawa -- July 22, 2008 From: Dan Williams To: "John W. Linville" Cc: Guy Cohen , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20080715174246.GA3117@tuxdriver.com> References: <20080709190915.GA8238@tuxdriver.com> <247d6d340807140805gfb6523en74384f6f47469d79@mail.gmail.com> <20080715174246.GA3117@tuxdriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:15:31 -0400 Message-Id: <1216145731.13411.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> (sfid-20080715_201731_895315_46FC8F2F) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 13:42 -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 06:05:13PM +0300, Guy Cohen wrote: > > I think that probably the most burning topics were a little diminished > > in our agenda, and should be put higher: > > - cfg80211/nl80211 - much of the current wext begins to fall behind > > the emerging capabilities of the mac80211 and moreover - from future > > abilities and needs of future fullmac devices. The functionality and > > ABI to userspace must be finalized as soon as possible. The status of > > this is very unclear and should be treated more thoroughly, and it > > seems it can't be shared with 5 other topics in less than 2 hours. > > FWIW, I listed this one first under Future Work. > > > - fullmac support - seems to be very relevant in the next couple of > > years with the integration of wifi into low power devices running > > linux. > > Not sure exactly what you mean with this one. Are you talking about > the lib80211 line item? Or enhancements to the mac80211 component > to support full(er) MAC designs? I hope just lib80211. We shouldn't be extending mac80211 to fullmac or quasi-fullmac parts. But we can certainly share a lot of stuff. lib80211 is where I see any additional fullmac effort going. Dan > > I think that these two topics should take precedence over other topics > > that although important consume more time in the agenda, and are > > currently less likely to have impact on the average users such as 11s > > and 11w. > > > > it would be good if these topics will get substantial time slot in the agenda. > > There are lots of items listed, and I'm not sure we will cover all > of them. If there are any that you would like to suggest be dropped > completely then please do so. > > That said, I don't think we have enough time for real working sessions > on Tuesday. I think it would be better just to touch on a variety > of topics that can benefit from some face-to-face discussions. > From that perspective, I think some status reports and some brief > proposals are most appropriate. > > I'll post a revised (mostly just augmented) agenda proposal today. > > John