Return-path: Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:35532 "EHLO ciao.gmane.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750897AbYHASaU (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:30:20 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KOzOI-0004HO-IL for linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:30:14 +0000 Received: from gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us ([66.218.54.163]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:30:14 +0000 Received: from daniel by gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:30:14 +0000 To: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org From: Daniel Gimpelevich Subject: Re: Vendor support stickers for devices supported under Linux wireless Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: (sfid-20080801_203024_512387_BECBB8EE) References: <43e72e890807301327j54be2453r836964c708d75458@mail.gmail.com> <40f31dec0807310657l36b052bfu510415d50c14718d@mail.gmail.com> <3659.194.45.26.221.1217581093.squirrel@webmail.madwifi.org> <1217610561.13107.28.camel@dv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:09:21 -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: > On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 10:58 +0200, Michael Renzmann wrote: >=20 >> How about a "Linux Wireless Foundation"? Some kind of official entit= y >> that wireless vendors could talk to for Linux support, certification >> process for getting the logo, and so on. >=20 > My concern is that giving any certification would imply that we promi= se > to keep the driver in the Linux sources. However, I don't think we c= an > accept legal obligations on behalf of the developers. Pardon me for butting in, but any vendor reading this thread would like= ly=20 read "support" to mean user support, rather than exclusively developer=20 support. An often overlooked-by-vendors advantage of fully GPLing a=20 driver is that they can legitimately disclaim any and all end-user=20 support in favor of the community. If they don't fully GPL, they still=20 bear a user-support burden, regardless of whether they meet that burden= =2E A formal WiFi Foundation specific to the Linux kernel would be quite=20 excessive. There already is The Linux Foundation, which could potential= ly=20 take care of any formal vendor liaison with the informal=20 linuxwireless.org group. If certification is done, the most manageable way to do it would be for= =20 vendors not to be able to choose what they can say about compatibility,= =20 but just plaster on a logo with whatever number of "Tux"es shaded the=20 linuxwireless.org assigns them. This, of course, has the disadvantage o= f=20 requiring retailers to replace compatibility stickers on retail boxes i= f=20 and when the compatibility status of a device changes, but that would, = of=20 course, be at vendor discretion. Come to think of it, the above could apply to *any* hardware=E2=80=A6 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireles= s" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html