Return-path: Received: from charlotte.tuxdriver.com ([70.61.120.58]:42589 "EHLO smtp.tuxdriver.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751954AbYIWSWI (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:22:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:21:14 -0400 From: "John W. Linville" To: Kalle Valo Cc: Johannes Berg , "Luis R. Rodriguez" , Helmut Schaa , Dan Williams , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Jouni Malinen Subject: Re: [RFC] mac80211: notify the user space about low signal quality Message-ID: <20080923182114.GC26219@tuxdriver.com> (sfid-20080923_202214_071619_24B2035D) References: <200809151416.07552.hschaa@suse.de> <200809151634.06448.hschaa@suse.de> <1221492529.10177.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809151845.35841.hschaa@suse.de> <43e72e890809151821h5d40e750q10c78f4d20d27c79@mail.gmail.com> <87r67kzf7c.fsf@nokia.com> <1221552727.8916.19.camel@johannes.berg> <873ak0zcz9.fsf@nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <873ak0zcz9.fsf@nokia.com> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:55:38AM +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: > Johannes Berg writes: > > > On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:07 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: > > > >> I definitely want to see this background scan support in Wireless > >> Extensions as well, otherwise it might prevent the real use of the > >> feature. > > > > However, the more feature we keep stuffing into WEXT the less incentive > > is there to actually do something about cfg80211. I'm with Luis here, > > the fact that there are no tools anywhere is because those tools aren't > > really very useful yet, not because it's not possible to get the tools > > in. > > I understand yours and Luis' points. But I still think that we should > push cfg80211 acceptance first with the argument of more reliable > method of configure 80211 devices, and only later start adding > cfg80211-only features. cfg80211-only features may be a great reason for people to move to the new tools. Considering how fragile WEXT has proven to be, I am not at all in favor of continuing to extend it. John -- John W. Linville Linux should be at the core linville@tuxdriver.com of your literate lifestyle.