Return-path: Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:53292 "EHLO ciao.gmane.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750885AbYIZVFV (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:05:21 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KjKUz-0008UE-UJ for linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:05:13 +0000 Received: from 77.21.175.82 ([77.21.175.82]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:05:13 +0000 Received: from feldmann_markus by 77.21.175.82 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:05:13 +0000 To: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org From: feldmaus Subject: Re: Do not get BCM4303 to work Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:07:23 +0200 Message-ID: (sfid-20080926_230527_952288_997559B8) References: <48C5777B.9070106@lwfinger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed In-Reply-To: <48C5777B.9070106@lwfinger.net> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Larry Finger schrieb: > feldmaus wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> i do not get my Wlan Card with BCM4303 Chip to work. >> >> I am not sure whether this Card is active, because show me, >> [ 409.752921] b43legacy-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISA= BLED >=20 > Your card can receive, but not transmit due to a problem with the rfk= ill=20 > switch handling in b43legacy. I'm working on this problem with a Ubun= tu=20 > user, and will post patches as soon as the problem is fixed. >=20 > Larry Hi Larry, i thought it would be helpful to post my Messages. :-) If not ignore this Message.:-) I am using the NetworkManager Applet to show and connect to Wlan Networ= ks. My wireless Button shines blue when my Linux System starts. However after i login onto myGnome Desktop and after some time the=20 NetworkManager Applet shows me my Wireless Network. dmesg says, =2E.. [ 22.024553] Broadcom 43xx-legacy driver loaded [ Features: PLRID,=20 =46irmware-ID: FW10 ] =2E.. [ 43.384052] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 40.776050] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch=20 level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 40.892896] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Chip initialized [ 40.893291] b43legacy-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized [ 40.893422] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:tx [ 40.901752] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:rx [ 40.909982] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio [ 40.918152] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started [ 40.918159] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2 [ 40.936417] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready [ 41.300046] b43legacy-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISABLE= D =2E.. Then i try to connect to this Network by press on my listed Network in the NetworkManager Applet. Then he connects to the Network. Der Network= =20 Balken zeigt einen Verbindungsstatus an von 0%. dmesg says, [ 530.437247] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 2 [ 530.446006] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped [ 530.446142] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (RX) max used slots:= 1/64 [ 530.446190] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (RX) max used slots:= 1/64 [ 530.446245] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x02A0 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 530.452052] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0280 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 530.460038] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 530.468036] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0240 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 530.476042] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0220 (TX) max used slots:= =20 2/128 [ 530.485144] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 530.492042] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 530.492058] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 530.506575] input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input10 [ 530.672048] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch=20 level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 530.824472] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Chip initialized [ 530.824862] b43legacy-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized [ 530.824993] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:tx [ 530.825031] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:rx [ 530.825069] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio [ 530.825102] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started [ 530.825109] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 3 [ 530.846071] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 531.520050] b43legacy-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISABLE= D [ 531.520431] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 531.584041] b43legacy-phy0: Radio turned on by software [ 531.584055] b43legacy-phy0: The hardware RF-kill button still turns=20 the radio physically off. Press the button to turn it on. [ 533.652045] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 536.428046] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 539.204045] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 539.980089] wlan0: Creating new IBSS network, BSSID 96:d6:b6:75:12:4= a [ 539.980130] wlan0: Configured IBSS beacon template [ 540.928032] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present [ 569.980046] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 600.756051] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 612.720029] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present [ 725.457997] wlan0: deauthenticate(reason=3D3) [ 726.477007] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 3 [ 726.492057] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped [ 726.492226] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (RX) max used slots:= 1/64 [ 726.492272] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (RX) max used slots:= 1/64 [ 726.492329] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x02A0 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 726.500165] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0280 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 726.508046] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 726.516038] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0240 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 726.524214] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0220 (TX) max used slots:= =20 4/128 [ 726.532042] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 726.540054] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 726.540069] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 726.633096] input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input11 [ 726.796037] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch=20 level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 726.896786] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Chip initialized [ 726.897036] b43legacy-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized [ 726.897117] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:tx [ 726.897133] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:rx [ 726.897149] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio [ 726.897172] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started [ 726.897175] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 3 [ 727.644031] b43legacy-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISABLE= D [ 727.924601] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 3 [ 727.930047] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped [ 727.930129] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (RX) max used slots:= 1/64 [ 727.930159] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (RX) max used slots:= 0/64 [ 727.930203] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x02A0 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 727.936037] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0280 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 727.944029] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 727.952032] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0240 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 727.960033] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0220 (TX) max used slots:= =20 2/128 [ 727.968034] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 727.976034] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 727.976043] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 727.983509] input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input12 [ 728.152040] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch=20 level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 728.252442] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Chip initialized [ 728.252729] b43legacy-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized [ 728.252819] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:tx [ 728.252839] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:rx [ 728.252858] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio [ 728.252883] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started [ 728.252887] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2 [ 728.280215] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready [ 728.344731] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 2 [ 728.349895] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped [ 728.349978] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (RX) max used slots:= 0/64 [ 728.350008] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (RX) max used slots:= 0/64 [ 728.350046] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x02A0 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 728.356050] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0280 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 728.364030] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 728.372028] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0240 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 728.380028] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0220 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 728.388030] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 728.396033] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 728.396042] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 728.403446] input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input13 [ 728.572043] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch=20 level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 728.672542] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Chip initialized [ 728.672827] b43legacy-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized [ 728.672916] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:tx [ 728.672937] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:rx [ 728.672956] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio [ 728.672981] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started [ 728.672985] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 3 [ 728.693355] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 729.416034] b43legacy-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISABLE= D [ 729.416179] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 729.500029] b43legacy-phy0: Radio turned on by software [ 729.500037] b43legacy-phy0: The hardware RF-kill button still turns=20 the radio physically off. Press the button to turn it on. [ 731.500116] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 734.276046] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 737.052043] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 737.828087] wlan0: Creating new IBSS network, BSSID f2:00:ad:b6:b3:3= a [ 737.828128] wlan0: Configured IBSS beacon template [ 738.884029] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present [ 767.828045] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 798.604045] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 810.584030] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present [ 994.892048] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1025.668044] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) ifconfig says, wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet Hardware Adresse 00:90:4b:97:34:73 inet Adresse:169.254.78.197 Bcast:169.254.255.255=20 Maske:255.255.0.0 inet6-Adresse: fe80::290:4bff:fe97:3473/64=20 G=FCltigkeitsbereich:Verbindung UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metrik:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:179 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenl=E4nge:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:32937 (32.1 KiB) As you can see, some Packets would transmitted over my Wireless Card. iwconfig says, wlan0 IEEE 802.11 ESSID:"kleopatra" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.412 GHz Cell: 76:0D:1D:B5:B7:73 Tx-Power=3D27 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=3D2352 B Encryption key:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 However i can not print to my Wlan Printer and the status in the Networ= k=20 Manager shows 0%. Then i pressed my wireless Button, and dmesg says [ 1056.444034] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1111.004046] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1141.780078] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1172.555792] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1193.449106] phy0: Adding new IBSS station 00:30:6e:d2:4a:99 (dev=3Dw= lan0) [ 1212.996048] wlan0: expiring inactive STA 00:30:6e:d2:4a:99 [ 1212.996285] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1243.772044] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1274.548043] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1320.929652] wlan0: deauthenticate(reason=3D3) [ 1321.952124] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 3 [ 1321.964039] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped [ 1321.964127] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (RX) max used slots:= 1/64 [ 1321.964160] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (RX) max used slots:= 1/64 [ 1321.964198] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x02A0 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1321.972035] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0280 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1321.980027] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1321.988031] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0240 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1321.996030] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0220 (TX) max used slots:= =20 4/128 [ 1322.004028] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1322.012026] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 1322.012035] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 1322.093411] input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input14 [ 1322.256079] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch=20 level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 1322.356791] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Chip initialized [ 1322.357047] b43legacy-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized [ 1322.357127] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:tx [ 1322.357144] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:rx [ 1322.357160] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio [ 1322.357184] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started [ 1322.357188] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 3 [ 1323.104036] b43legacy-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISABLE= D [ 1323.384592] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 3 [ 1323.396041] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped [ 1323.396150] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (RX) max used slots:= 1/64 [ 1323.396183] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (RX) max used slots:= 0/64 [ 1323.396226] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x02A0 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.404039] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0280 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.412026] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.420026] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0240 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.428031] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0220 (TX) max used slots:= =20 2/128 [ 1323.436034] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.444032] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 1323.444041] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 1323.454511] input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input15 [ 1323.620042] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch=20 level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 1323.720624] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Chip initialized [ 1323.720911] b43legacy-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized [ 1323.721002] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:tx [ 1323.721024] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:rx [ 1323.721043] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio [ 1323.721069] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started [ 1323.721073] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2 [ 1323.748106] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready [ 1323.811666] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 2 [ 1323.817608] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped [ 1323.817690] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (RX) max used slots:= 0/64 [ 1323.817722] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (RX) max used slots:= 0/64 [ 1323.817761] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x02A0 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.824041] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0280 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.832037] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0260 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.840033] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0240 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.848029] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0220 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.856035] b43legacy-phy0 debug: DMA-30 0x0200 (TX) max used slots:= =20 0/128 [ 1323.864839] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 1323.864849] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 1323.872375] input: b43legacy-phy0 as /class/input/input16 [ 1324.040043] b43legacy-phy0: Loading firmware version 0x127, patch=20 level 14 (2005-04-18 02:36:27) [ 1324.140544] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Chip initialized [ 1324.140835] b43legacy-phy0 debug: 30-bit DMA initialized [ 1324.140927] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:tx [ 1324.140948] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:rx [ 1324.140967] Registered led device: b43legacy-phy0:radio [ 1324.140992] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started [ 1324.140996] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 3 [ 1324.161293] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 1324.884035] b43legacy-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISABLE= D [ 1324.884253] b43legacy-phy0 debug: Radio initialized [ 1324.968031] b43legacy-phy0: Radio turned on by software [ 1324.968040] b43legacy-phy0: The hardware RF-kill button still turns=20 the radio physically off. Press the button to turn it on. [ 1326.968047] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 1329.744048] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 1332.520047] wlan0: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join [ 1333.296087] wlan0: Creating new IBSS network, BSSID 76:0d:1d:b5:b7:7= 3 [ 1333.296126] wlan0: Configured IBSS beacon template [ 1334.644033] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present [ 1363.296044] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1394.072046] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1405.964030] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present [ 1517.772022] phy0: Adding new IBSS station 00:30:6e:d2:4a:99 (dev=3Dw= lan0) [ 1517.772037] wlan0: expiring inactive STA 00:30:6e:d2:4a:99 [ 1517.772037] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1574.332043] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1582.205006] phy0: Adding new IBSS station 00:30:6e:d2:4a:99 (dev=3Dw= lan0) [ 1605.112054] wlan0: expiring inactive STA 00:30:6e:d2:4a:99 [ 1605.128043] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1635.908058] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) [ 1666.684045] wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other=20 IBSS networks with same SSID (merge) The Mac Adress "00:30:6e:d2:4a:99" is from my wireless Printer Regards Markus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireles= s" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html