Return-path: Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]:13741 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754249AbYIIAvk (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:51:40 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so6719ugf.37 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1ba2fa240809081751n30eae41u16d8c505fd048da9@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20080909_025145_905814_17AD549F) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 03:51:38 +0300 From: "Tomas Winkler" To: "Matthew Garrett" Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mac80211: stop queues before carrier off Cc: "Dan Williams" , "Johannes Berg" , "John Linville" , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20080908233706.GA7465@srcf.ucam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <20080908153336.891710000@sipsolutions.net> <20080908153510.167807000@sipsolutions.net> <1ba2fa240809081440o2c88eaa7o1e120fe75c018b9e@mail.gmail.com> <1220910240.9427.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1ba2fa240809081508jd762ac6q9d8505879711d151@mail.gmail.com> <20080908222859.GA6153@srcf.ucam.org> <1ba2fa240809081632j6816f059s30cc3b4ea5dcc2ed@mail.gmail.com> <20080908233706.GA7465@srcf.ucam.org> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:32:35AM +0300, Tomas Winkler wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:08:17AM +0300, Tomas Winkler wrote: >> >> It has to be other way around. >> > >> > [Citation needed]\ >> >> This is how any other connection manager I know works. Maybe I'm >> trapped in old concepts but I don't find current NM paradigm >> friendly. > > It's the way it's been in NM since 2004, so I think changing it at this > point would be unfriendly. As I see it NM is evolving lately, which is good It didn't have connection editor before. Now they is just missing button along add, edit and delete to make me happy. The aim isn't to build a Windows clone. I didn't suggested this and wireless profile is a general concept nothing to do with Windows. Another example you live big building where everybody has an AP. So your scan list has 50 entries. Now you have to search by eye all this 50 entries instead of directly requesting connection to your particular AP. What I want to see is 3 APs my home, work and favorite coffee house. I would access scan list only if I cannot find any of these three. But we should probably move this conversation to different mailing list. Second I didn't plan to criticize anyone I didn't do anything actively to change it. I just got little frustrated when testing switching between APs Thanks Tomas