Subject: Re: at76_usb driver status
From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Kalle Valo <kalle.valo@iki.fi>, proski@gnu.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:42:28 +0200
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On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 16:31 -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 04:12:20PM -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 11:35 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
>=20
> > > I'll gladly drop it from drivers/staging when the "real" version hits
> > > mainline, until then, it should stay in staging, as that is the whole
> > > point of it.
> >=20
> > It does nobody any good if (a) the drivers are _never_ going to go
> > upstream, and (b) if the drivers aren't going to get any attention in
> > their current form because of (a).
> >=20
> > I don't care if the driver allows peoples hardware to work; I want a
> > driver that makes peoples hardware work _well_.  Out of tree drivers
> > that are never going upstream will not work well.
>=20
> I think/thought the main point of -staging was to give drivers
> visibility in hopes of people working to fix them.

Shouldn't then the mac80211-based at76_usb be in -staging instead? That
one might not work completely, but at least it's fixable without a
rewrite.

johannes

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