Return-path: Received: from xc.sipsolutions.net ([83.246.72.84]:39306 "EHLO sipsolutions.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751500AbYJVH1m (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:27:42 -0400 Subject: Re: New iwlwifi 3945 uCode available From: Johannes Berg To: reinette chatre Cc: Marcel Holtmann , Tomas Winkler , "John W. Linville" , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" In-Reply-To: <1224628088.10863.100.camel@rc-desk> References: <1224613633.10863.43.camel@rc-desk> <1224624324.28639.9.camel@johannes.berg> <1ba2fa240810211433q2e7a13b2p45cb8d38a74393c9@mail.gmail.com> <1224624899.28639.17.camel@johannes.berg> <20081021213814.GM17268@tuxdriver.com> <1ba2fa240810211453y40739183v84999364c89886ee@mail.gmail.com> <1224627187.9386.103.camel@californication> <1224628088.10863.100.camel@rc-desk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-y1MnVftgBK9Us5GIuYak" Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:27:29 +0200 Message-Id: <1224660449.28639.22.camel@johannes.berg> (sfid-20081022_092745_596645_066B9B73) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --=-y1MnVftgBK9Us5GIuYak Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:28 -0700, reinette chatre wrote: > I do not believe our request is unreasonable. If a user runs a new > kernel the log will print a message that the firmware is incorrect ... > all the user needs to do is go to > http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=3DDownloads and download the latest > firmware. And that exactly _is_ a problem, the user may be relying on wireless connectivity. And they won't know up-front they need new firmware. Since firmware is loaded from userspace, you're breaking userspace/kernel ABI, it's pretty simple really. I really don't know why we let you get away with this and bitch endlessly when b43 does such a change, to the point where we finally cave in and support both versions. Why should a community-supported driver be held to higher standards? johannes --=-y1MnVftgBK9Us5GIuYak Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Johannes Berg (powerbook) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJI/tXdAAoJEKVg1VMiehFYKX0QALdsZDCMQw8284UPBW6L1nZV mxxCYDYjRERhoEWuItDar5XA4tYWgPZgfrkHYJqKfQ+0FXkLW0CNQntND/VlpwNq nYk2p+bLcDbkBlkQ7BznXqWAXTv+keiUdl/uFXmLQEfH0vqpwPmfCZg5c9xOOr6k LNNhpkxb9PH8lEX50Q84pFvDwRMtnWE1jc5VJ/YZql3SKDMaS+PXcIQ6BKh5jkEp dpyTp+COh1EWkEOuLogUa8FgmYsusB3aD1Qz6L4C+/DR+1pohjh5+PiQy4PH5NKc F5jyVNG30Kq2ACDsRWNy3NZb9GK0F2rZW4N+FrXfYopH3dadfGky2LTxVwvrNyCW MJNqdnxovSk+VCqyXrSou+3n8srct4Ne6bKr4cx2qxKOWHC1f2I92WElpwiVxyHx 8lQik+YLY24WGZcPuMjtjK02t/bbqitSCc/k4nr4d37a2yfr4guL9tNo0KlrcffX 5e8+X2EPR0+A2IruVnh2De9VxSF7xJUANqQ6L83Mg8rZeHawI50B4DBSiADgaj9m arO4yQ3uZVyPh5Av2gL6fm5wCKd/8BYXFkwUG3L7O8VTG53nygEYXwfUU6eenoRN DgkdvksUda+8pMuea6+65/yRHG12VTTfgJ8mj7EJn9/Nv7ksxLluy95HOoE3WCty Zgu969wYC2Z/SpwCpWHm =k0F+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-y1MnVftgBK9Us5GIuYak--