Return-path: Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:39039 "EHLO vavatch.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753163AbYKBJXl (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:23:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:23:36 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: Nick Kossifidis Cc: Alan Jenkins , "Luiz Fernando N. Capitulino" , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, willy@linux.intel.com, lrodriguez@atheros.com Subject: Re: ath5k gets lost with eeepc-laptop removal Message-ID: <20081102092336.GD10983@srcf.ucam.org> (sfid-20081102_102349_114515_BAECB892) References: <20081031110502.18e33eba@doriath.conectiva> <490B0D75.8020601@tuffmail.co.uk> <20081031142318.GA9009@srcf.ucam.org> <40f31dec0810311135w76c01729lef1a6c93f18c0095@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <40f31dec0810311135w76c01729lef1a6c93f18c0095@mail.gmail.com> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:35:47PM +0200, Nick Kossifidis wrote: > It doesn't leave the radio in a state that's not transmitting, it > leaves the card in a state that doesn't get any power at all. I don't > see any reason for this, how do you define "safe" ? The rfkill core has no concept of what the underlying hardware implementation is. The fact that you can see the card at all is a bug triggered by the fact that we don't currently support PCIe hotplug on this type of machine (I've just sent a patch that adds a workaround for that), but the inherent reason for it happening this way is because Asus implemented it that way in their platform. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org