Return-path: Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159]:24230 "EHLO fg-out-1718.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753983AbZDEWmi (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:42:38 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so165665fgg.17 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:42:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49D92A82.8010108@gmail.com> References: <68f4d6130903241108j590d49adj10446169f7c3c06b@mail.gmail.com> <43e72e890903241256l39f5b1f9i49ce2b7a6e8099c3@mail.gmail.com> <49CD0FCF.3060706@gmail.com> <43e72e890903271126p7a302460lffdd5cd8d6ebe807@mail.gmail.com> <49D65F93.40105@gmail.com> <3ace41890904031820p7b5fc61meaf21a4bd4330f69@mail.gmail.com> <49D7316A.4040502@gmail.com> <3ace41890904042017y34a50374k193b5ea5761f3840@mail.gmail.com> <49D92A82.8010108@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:42:34 +0100 Message-ID: <3ace41890904051542x458626a4naf3b7a8ff5685353@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20090406_004252_032469_6BDD2D42) Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: Another wireless application From: Hin-Tak Leung To: Witold Sowa Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Witold Sowa wrote: > There is nothing to apologize for. I think that proposals should be > discussed publicly. It would point mistakes which applicants do and help > them to avoid doing them later (eg. next year). Constructive criticism > is always welcomed. It is still up to somebody else to make up their mind to accept a student/application or not, in the wireless area, which isn't where my expertise lies, and/or decide between several applications to the same project. > I thought it works in a bit different way. I thought that mentor is > determined to lead some project before the applications are submitted. > Then, proposals are sorted in order of quality and importance and the > best Y applications is being accepted. Thanks for making it clear. Yes and no. Project ideas and areas needed working on are advertised, but mentors are not committed to take up students. (and students can suggest their own topics, and when that happens, some people will hunt for suitable mentors). And all the projects under the Linux Foundations are scored and qualified together before Google takes the decision of how many to fund. i.e. wireless projects are considered against open-printing projects against LSB-standard-compliant projects. So there are 4(?) wireless ideas, and a few possible mentors under those 4, but it doesn't necessarily mean that there will be 4 students working on each of those this summer. Most likely it will be less than 4. If there are fewer than 4, it just means that the work won't get done this year (i.e pushed to next year) or being done differently (one of Redhat/Suse/Ubuntu people might just do it as a smaller part of the daily job). (it is possible to have more than 4 - e.g. I can see two people working on AP mode NetworkManager support, one for gnome and one for KDE, if Google or some organization have unlimited resources). AFAIK, google wants to fund 1000 projects this year (a slightly smaller number than last year, due to economic down-turn), and this is split between organizations, and out of the allocation to Linux Foundations, some will be wireless, some will be open-printing, and some will be LSB-standard-compliances. (those are the areas I know off the top of my head of main areas under LF, there might be some other topics which I forget to mention).