Return-path: Received: from mail-bw0-f174.google.com ([209.85.218.174]:48568 "EHLO mail-bw0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750893AbZEQQdX convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 May 2009 12:33:23 -0400 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so2801046bwz.37 for ; Sun, 17 May 2009 09:33:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <557754.25367.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090512215817.bd1c6895.cjsthompson@gmail.com> <200905161132.21437.IvDoorn@gmail.com> <20090517145110.87b68ff2.cjsthompson@gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_Stefanik?= Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:33:03 +0200 Message-ID: <69e28c910905170933t58b769a9k8a635e2a68f063b6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: rt73usb Access point status To: Jon Fairbairn Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Jon Fairbairn wrote: > "Christoph .J Thompson" writes: > >> On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:47:04 +0100 >> Jon Fairbairn wrote: >>> the talk Butler Lampson gave for Roger >>> Needham's 50+5 presentation >>> >> >> Haven't used Windows seriously in over a decade, > > I never have, except to look at web pages to check that > they're compatible with the bugs in internet exploiter. > >> but as far as WiFi drivers I think there is no standards. > > That -- more's the pity -- is partly the point of Lampson's > talk. Rather than have standards his claim is that if it > works on Windows it works, by definition, and that that's a > good thing. I don't agree with him about that last, but I > suspect mine is a minority view. > >> Windows drivers are just like the vendor drivers for >> Linux: everyone is doing their own thing. > > It would be nicer if they didn't do it that way, but what > would make them change? It's great that a few take notice of > Linux these days, but it'll be a long wait before many of > them develop on Linux and let the Windows community write > their own drivers. On a slightly related note, is it even possible to have a GPLed driver on Windows? Or are the NDIS development headers under a license precluding any GPLed drivers? (I'm asking because I'm planning to write a custom Broadcom driver for Windows that I want to open-source, and being able to use GPLed code from b43 would be of great help.) > > -- > J?n Fairbairn ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jon.Fairbairn@cl.cam.ac.uk > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at ?http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- Vista: [V]iruses, [I]ntruders, [S]pyware, [T]rojans and [A]dware. :-)