Return-path: Received: from mail-fx0-f213.google.com ([209.85.220.213]:46368 "EHLO mail-fx0-f213.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755379AbZFJTg4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:36:56 -0400 Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so1050758fxm.37 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:36:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Jouni Malinen Cc: "John W. Linville" , Johannes Berg , Hin-Tak Leung , =?iso-8859-15?Q?G=E1bor?= Stefanik , Stefan Steuerwald , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Testing AP mode with WLAN-USB-Stick: How to obtain? References: <3ace41890906081659o23cb9ee1sd82ca4fc28a3793d@mail.gmail.com> <69e28c910906090426l4c383665rdc4bffc501085661@mail.gmail.com> <3ace41890906092018o76b0ee62n91819779a8ccd6db@mail.gmail.com> <1244619027.18481.55.camel@johannes.local> <20090610113158.GA2798@tuxdriver.com> <87ws7jsxqt.fsf@litku.valot.fi> <20090610192825.GA23353@jm.kir.nu> From: Kalle Valo Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:36:49 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20090610192825.GA23353@jm.kir.nu> (Jouni Malinen's message of "Wed\, 10 Jun 2009 22\:28\:25 +0300") Message-ID: <87ocsvswxa.fsf@litku.valot.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Jouni Malinen writes: >> Also deliberately breaking 802.11 specification sounds very wrong to me. >> We can, and should, aim higher than that. > > Well, breaking specifications may have to be done in some cases ;-), but > this particular feature is not really such a case. Yes, you are correct (as usual). The specification is not perfect, far from it :) > However, I do understand the desire to be able to use some kind of AP > mode even if it is known to be broken for some cases. Actually what are the reasons why an user would prefer AP mode over Ad-Hoc mode, if he doesn't care about power save? Better coverage between clients and better encryption, but that's it. Right? -- Kalle Valo