Return-path: Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:35830 "EHLO out2.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753530AbZFCVkk (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:40:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:40:40 -0300 From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh To: Dan Williams Cc: Marcel Holtmann , Alan Jenkins , Johannes Berg , John Linville , linux-wireless Subject: Re: [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface Message-ID: <20090603214040.GD22809@khazad-dum.debian.net> References: <1243867620.3015.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A23FD91.8020200@tuffmail.co.uk> <1243885494.3015.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A24559D.7010201@tuffmail.co.uk> <1243928308.3192.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1243929706.20064.7.camel@johannes.local> <4A24E3E4.1050505@tuffmail.co.uk> <1243932109.3192.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090603041030.GB10464@khazad-dum.debian.net> <1244034216.22679.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <1244034216.22679.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, 03 Jun 2009, Dan Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 01:10 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Tue, 02 Jun 2009, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > > > Forget about this EPO crap. That is just a stupid concept anyway. > > > > Is it? So, if I use the _hardware switch_ on my laptop to kill all > > internal radios, it shouldn't be enforced by the OS on extra radios I > > plugged? Or on shitty internal WLAN cards that doesn't tie properly to > > the mini-pci and mini-pcie hardware kill lines? > > > > And any userspace PoS program can decide to bring up such radios that > > are not hardware-killed even if I am clearly trying to disable them all? > > You hardkilled. Of course it should bring down everything. If you > don't want to hardkill, then disable specific radios via /sys or some > UI. The hardswitch is the "eject" button. That's exactly my point. I want EPO to mean "no, you cannot turn this crap on, GO AWAY" for anyone but root (or whomever SELinux allowed to do it, etc). > Other types like pushbutton switches (Fn+F5, HP laptop touchbuttons, > etc) that *aren't* hardswitches connected to a GPIO on the wifi device > should probably just bring up some window letting you pick what gets > rfkilled. Which reminds me, we STILL don't have a proper keycode for that. Care to propose one to Dmitry? -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh