Return-path: Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:50491 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756635AbZFWTtk (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:49:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Krzysztof Halasa cc: Jake Edge , "Luis R. Rodriguez" , Pavel Machek , Greg KH , "corbet@lwn.net" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , "tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com" Subject: Re: [PATCH v3.1415] Documentation: add documentation summary for rc-series and merge window In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20090622222217.GH23972@bombadil.infradead.org> <20090623130602.6cd6b713@chukar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Krzysztof Halasa wrote: > Linus Torvalds writes: > > > In fact, this whole discussion has shown one thing: people still think > > that "bug fix" somehow automatically means that it's appropriate after the > > merge window. That's simply not so. > > That's why i wrote: gain vs risk. People really don't seem to be very good at the risk management part. They see the gain, they don't think about the risk. Note: not all maintainers are bad about this. But it tends to be my biggest gripe after around -rc3 or so - people send stuff that is good, but that really has no real reason not to be delayed. And as long as people talk about this in terms of "bugs", it's a problem. It would be much better to talk about it in terms of "Does this _really_ have to hit the next release? Honestly? Even though we're supposed to be in the calming-down period?" Linus