Return-path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.248]:30676 "EHLO an-out-0708.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752628AbZG2PTM convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:19:12 -0400 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d40so1034455and.1 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:19:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1248285108-10059-1-git-send-email-lrodriguez@atheros.com> From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:18:52 -0700 Message-ID: <43e72e890907290818t62515b61p2f30278b690f22c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] wireless-regdb: TH gets 5 GHz enabled as of new regulatory rules To: Phattanon Duangdara Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Michael Green , David Quan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Note: this e-mail is in a public mailing list. Adding Michael and David. Michael, I'd appreciate your review on this, if possible. Phattanon, thanks for your review of the TH document and sharing it with us. Please see my reply inline below. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Phattanon Duangdara wrote: > I corrected redgb from my knowledge. Did you see my patch? I corrected TH to be: country TH: (2402 - 2482 @ 20), (N/A, 20) (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (3, 17) (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (3, 20), DFS (5490 - 5710 @ 20), (3, 20), DFS (5735 - 5835 @ 20), (3, 30) > For 5150-5350 is for Indoor Use Only. > Most of the regulartory What do you mean by that? Do you mean that the document refers to FCC and ETSI/ITU standard for regulatory purposes for some items? > refer _either_ FCC or ETSI/ITU standard, so I > guess that from the document 40MHz can also be used (same as US) > because TH regulatory mostly cover all bandwidth on 40MHz. Are you saying the Thailand document refers to FCC for max allowed bandwidth spacing and therefore US max bandwidth spacing should be used (ie allow 40 MHz width channels)? > I corrected power but What a field before power is (that is now N/A below) ? The rules can be read as follows: (start - end @ max bandwidth spacing), (max antenna gain, max eirp) > # TH Data (2008) from > http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2551/E/042/64.PDF > country TH: >        (2402 - 2472 @ 40), (N/A, 20) >        (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR >        (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS >        (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 30), DFS >        (5735 - 5835 @ 30), (N/A, 30) Michael, does your concur with this? > Summary I got from the document > > 2400-2500 MHz > Max Power (e.i.r.p): 100mW > Bandwidth: Not specified > Usage: Not specified > Ref Standard (either): Either, does that mean either FCC, or ETSI or ITU, you take a pick? That would seem pretty vague for regulatory purposes. > EN 300 328-2 : Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum Matters > (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission > equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using > spread spectrum modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized > EN covering essential requirements under article 3.2 of R&TTE > Directive Did this come from the TH document? > FCC Part 15.247 : Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 > Telecommunication; Chapter 1 Federal Communications > Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart C – > Intentional Radiators; §15.247 Operation within the bands 902– > 928 MHz, 2400–2483.5 MHz, and 5725–5850 MHz This too?? I ask because I see FCC mentioned. > 5150-5350 MHz > Max Power (e.i.r.p): 200mW, Density 10mW/MHz (0.25mW/25KHz) > Bandwidth: Not specified > Usage: Indoor applications only, DFS is must Thanks, did this came from the TH document? > Resolution 229 (WRC-03) > (Radio Regulations) - Use of the bands 5 150-5 250 MHz, 5 250-5 350 > MHz and 5 470-5 725 > MHz by the mobile service for the implementation of wireless access > systems including > radio local area networks > > Recommendation ITU-R M. 1652 (Annex 1): Dynamic > frequency selection (DFS) in wireless access systems including radio > local area networks > for the purpose of protecting the radiocommunication service in the 5 GHz band > > Ref Standard (either): > > ETSI EN 301 893 : Broadband Radio Access Networks (BRAN); 5 GHz high > performance RLAN; Harmonized EN covering essential > requirements of article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive > > FCC Part 15.407 : Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 > Telecommunications; Chapter 1 Federal Communications > Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart E – > Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure Devices; > § 15.407 General technical requirements > > > > 5450-5725 MHz > Max Power (e.i.r.p): 1W, Density 50mW/MHz > Bandwidth: Not specified > Usage: Not specified, DFS is must > > Resolution 229 (WRC-03) > (Radio Regulations) - Use of the bands 5 150-5 250 MHz, 5 250-5 350 > MHz and 5 470-5 725 > MHz by the mobile service for the implementation of wireless access > systems including > radio local area networks > > Recommendation ITU-R M. 1652 (Annex 1): Dynamic > frequency selection (DFS) in wireless access systems including radio > local area networks > for the purpose of protecting the radiocommunication service in the 5 GHz band > > Ref Standard (either): > > ETSI EN 301 893 : Broadband Radio Access Networks (BRAN); 5 GHz high > performance RLAN; Harmonized EN covering essential > requirements of article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive > > Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 > Telecommunications; Chapter 1 Federal Communications > Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart E – > Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure Devices; > § 15.407 General technical requirements > > 5725-5850 MHz > Max Power (e.i.r.p): 1W > Bandwidth: Not specified > Usage: Not specified > Ref Standard (either): > > FCC Part 15.247 : Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 > Telecommunication; Chapter 1 Federal Communications > Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart C – > Intentional Radiators; §15.247 Operation within the bands 902– > 928 MHz, 2400–2483.5 MHz, and 5725–5850 MHz > > Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 > Telecommunications; Chapter 1 Federal Communications > Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart E – > Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure Devices; > § 15.407 General technical requirements > > Phattanon, > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Luis R. > Rodriguez wrote: >> Phattanon Duangdara reported the National Telecommunication >> Commisions of Thailand has announced new regulatory rules >> about 5GHz for RLAN last year. >> >> I have verified this matches our documentation internally >> at Atheros. >> >> Reference in Thai Language: >> http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2551/E/042/64.PDF >> >> Cc: Michael Green >> Cc: David Quan >> Reported-by: Phattanon Duangdara >> Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez >> --- >>  db.txt |    6 +++++- >>  1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt >> index fad098d..01536d6 100644 >> --- a/db.txt >> +++ b/db.txt >> @@ -534,7 +534,11 @@ country TW: >>        (5735 - 5815 @ 40), (3, 30) >> >>  country TH: >> -       (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) >> +       (2402 - 2482 @ 20), (N/A, 20) >> +       (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (3, 17) >> +       (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (3, 20), DFS >> +       (5490 - 5710 @ 20), (3, 20), DFS >> +       (5735 - 5835 @ 20), (3, 30) >> >>  country TT: >>        (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) >> -- >> 1.6.3.3 >> >> > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >