Subject: Re: [wireless] rt2870sta BUGs on shutdown,
 2.6.30.2->git.today+git.wireless.today
From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	Luis Correia <luis.f.correia@gmail.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:09:40 +0200
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On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 18:52 +0200, Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> I planned, and actually did write, a lengthy reply for this thread, when I completed the reply
> I reconsidred and opted for this shorter reply. Every 2 or 3 months this discussion is started
> again and I am f***ing tired of it, so excuse me but I am not going to throw myself into
> this completely pointless discussion
> 
> What you are suggesting in your mail is something the rt2x00 project did for 5 years, we stopped
> with that 4 months ago because it wasn't working out. Apparently you have more experience in this
> matter so I hope you will find a way to make that solution work out.
> 
> If you want to maintain the legacy drivers then do it, start a new project and start maintaining
> the code. I can forward you all the users with complains about the "good enough" drivers. It is
> good to know that you apparently have the resources to maintain the old drivers. 
> Most people who are helping with the rt2800pci/usb drivers lack the required time to boost the driver
> into such a state it can be widely adopted. But every time it amazes me that the people who want
> to develop and have the time to do it, all want to jump on the old Ralink code... Apparently there
> is some appeal to maintaining crap rather then helping to ship out proper drivers to the users.
> 
> But I'll shut up now, as I said this discussion is held every few months, so perhaps that when
> the discussion is started again in a couple of months I am more interested in a lengthy reply.

Hohum. Please remove me from CC for any further discussion.

	-Mike