From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Subject: Re: [Acpi4asus-user] [PATCH 2.6.31] rfkill: allow toggling soft state in sysfs again
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:56:43 +0200
Cc: acpi4asus-user@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Darren Salt <linux@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk>,
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	Thiemo Nagel <thiemo.nagel@ph.tum.de>,
	Corentin Chary <corentin.chary@gmail.com>
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On Friday 10 July 2009, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 22:09 +0100, Darren Salt wrote:
> > I demand that Johannes Berg may or may not have written...
> > 
> > > Apparently there actually _are_ tools that try to set this in sysfs even
> > > though it wasn't supposed to be used this way without claiming first.
> > 
> > Then it should have been documented as such. I don't see anything about this
> > in Documentation/rfkill.txt (as found in 2.6.30), other than a vague
> > statement that "Kernel handles events", which isn't exactly helpful :-\
> 
> Oh, it's not just that rfkill was horrible, the documentation matched :)
> All the SHOUTING in it about what you must and must not do but nothing
> actually helpful :)
> 
> > > *shrug*, I don't like it, but whatever...
> > 
> > I do. It means that we have a nice simple text-based interface for use in
> > scripts (for now), and a binary interface which is better suited to the likes
> > of desktop applications.
> 
> Indeed, and as long as you expect to only use soft toggle... problem is
> that you won't know whether it's soft-toggled or not while it's
> hard-blocked (off)!
> 
> > > Please test & report.
> > 
> > With the patch applied, Bluetooth toggling is working again, so you get to
> > add this:
> > 
> > Tested-By: Darren Salt <linux@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk>
> 
> Ok, John, please pick up the patch.

Is there anything going on with the patch?

Surely it's not in -rc4.

Rafael