Return-path: Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]:45235 "EHLO mail-bw0-f219.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752622AbZHaSn0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:43:26 -0400 Received: by mail-bw0-f219.google.com with SMTP id 19so2968529bwz.37 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:43:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3ace41890908270243i7c1d8ddav322a35c566d2c010@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ace41890908261511i3056c049kca82831015ff2aa0@mail.gmail.com> <43e72e890908261528m23b8fe78w209e305f27e68fa1@mail.gmail.com> <3ace41890908261555g339e65d1n6627cc3d1713287e@mail.gmail.com> <43e72e890908261645n24a040cds84f012095a40c15b@mail.gmail.com> <1251357267.20531.4.camel@johannes.local> <3ace41890908270243i7c1d8ddav322a35c566d2c010@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:43:27 +0100 Message-ID: <3ace41890908311143q697898a3mcbc681d3941b45c9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: hal, rfkill and compat-wireless (Re: [RFC/RFT] rtl8187: Implement rfkill support) From: Hin-Tak Leung To: Johannes Berg Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" , hal@lists.freedesktop.org, htl10@users.sourceforge.net, Larry Finger , Herton Ronaldo Krzesinski , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Hin-Tak Leung wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Johannes Berg wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 16:45 -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: >> >>> Johannes, did kernels < 2.6.31 have /sys/class/rfkill ? >> >> Yes, but I never understood why that matters. If you've got >> compat-wireless "rfkill" loaded then the original rfkill can't be loaded >> anyway. And their symbols would probably clash anyway if the original is >> built in, in which case you can't use compat. >> >> You haven't renamed cfg80211's sysfs either, so why rfkill? >> >> johannes >> > > There are a couple of wimax drivers which depends on rfkill... or > bluetooth drivers? I think one likely reason is that there are valid > situations or hardware combinations which requires having both of them > loaded. (but that's a whole can of worms ) Argh, I just have a stacktrace after reboot - toshiba_acpi.ko (on a toshiba laptop) requires the stock-kernel rfkill-* symbols, and rfkill won't load because of my modified compat-wireless rfkill_backport.ko which takes up /sys/class/rfkill rather than /sys/class/rfkill_backport . There's your reason from sysfs renaming. I wonder why/how I could unload rfkill.ko earlier, since the *_acpi.ko needs it - maybe I had acpi unloaded as a side-effect also. I guess we'll need hal to treat /sys/class/rfkill_backport like /sys/class/rfkill then - will file a bug somewhere on freedesktop, although I hear hal is on its way out....