Return-path: Received: from charlotte.tuxdriver.com ([70.61.120.58]:40759 "EHLO smtp.tuxdriver.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754548AbZIANPZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:15:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:13:33 -0400 From: "John W. Linville" To: Hin-Tak Leung Cc: Larry Finger , =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor?= Stefanik , "Luis R. Rodriguez" , Tobias Schlemmer , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com Subject: Re: rtl8187b Problem with tx level Message-ID: <20090901131333.GA7650@tuxdriver.com> References: <3ace41890908311055s5c49a25fjf69ca48024579d44@mail.gmail.com> <43e72e890908311102q2ed9e8b3q8f1f15d45a29b2f1@mail.gmail.com> <3ace41890908311132g16783b68y2d1771ce1d2780d@mail.gmail.com> <43e72e890908311141k6bcf5edbl6bce2b88670fb5f8@mail.gmail.com> <3ace41890908311157v4fbc9829j6db9c91ef6fff3c7@mail.gmail.com> <4A9C3C59.5010305@lwfinger.net> <69e28c910908311418l7f033b5bp7a9b443cd253304@mail.gmail.com> <4A9C42C5.6050400@lwfinger.net> <3ace41890908311616k4040d59fub051d21e822604d0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In-Reply-To: <3ace41890908311616k4040d59fub051d21e822604d0@mail.gmail.com> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:16:04AM +0100, Hin-Tak Leung wrote: > 2009/8/31 Larry Finger : > > G?bor Stefanik wrote: > >> > >> The driver is not actually closed-source; they just don't provide any > >> drivers on their site anymore, instead they send their reference > >> drivers to OEMs, expecting the OEMs to release their own versions > >> (with sources - most vendors who do release Linux drivers in fact only > >> release sources, without binaries). The reason for this appears to be > >> that Realtek now encourages vendors to sell RTL81xx wireless chips > >> with modified USB IDs. (Or are you seeing a binary-only driver on > >> realtek.com.tw? That would definitely be a GPL violation, given that > >> they use a modified version of the GPLed libipw stack.) > > > > > > No driver at all. I looked at the Toshiba site, but found only Windows > > drivers. Which OEM has the driver available? > > > > Larry > > The r8187 is distributed from OEMs - stand to reason, as realtek don't > really sell their own brand on high-street shops? We got one release > e-mailed to us, and there are a few floating around on the internet > under some laptop or usb hardware vendors. It is available under this, > for example: http://service.one.de/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=NOTEBOOKS/ONE_A1XX/LINUX/Source-code/Wireless > r8187mesh is the one in the mesh directory. *sigh* So Realtek is actually going backwards in their level of support? Wonderful. Anyone have any real-life contacts at Realtek? We really need to get them on-board with the drivers in the kernel. John -- John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready.