Return-path: Received: from smtp-out003.kontent.com ([81.88.40.217]:45745 "EHLO smtp-out003.kontent.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751500AbZKCQ1F convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:27:05 -0500 From: Oliver Neukum To: Alan Stern Subject: Re: [PATCH] ar9170usb: add mode-switching for AVM Fritz!WLAN USB N devices in cdrom mode Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:29:25 +0100 Cc: Dan Williams , Matthew Dharm , Frank Schaefer , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <200911031729.26463.oliver@neukum.org> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 16:16:12 schrieb Alan Stern: > This sounds as if you are trying very hard to get the _worst_ of both > worlds! ?You would force users to upgrade their kernels before they can > use new devices (because the kernel is where the mode-switch code will > be), and you also would force them to upgrade their userspace settings > (so that the new mode-switch code will be called). Yes. > I'm with Matt Dharm and Josua Dietze on this. ?Jobs that can be handled > in userspace _should_ be handled there. There is the inconvenient problem of hibernation. And, if more systems start cutting power to USB in STR, the problem of STR. I am inclined to declare that hibernation is a problem of those pesky misdesigns. But dare we say that also about STR? Regards Oliver