Return-path: Received: from mail.redfish-solutions.com ([66.232.79.143]:35279 "EHLO mail.redfish-solutions.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756737Ab0CKTdu (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:33:50 -0500 Message-ID: <4B9944A0.5080308@redfish-solutions.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:29:36 -0700 From: "Philip A. Prindeville" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Miller CC: dunc@lemonia.org, kalle.valo@iki.fi, kaber@trash.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Network QoS support in applications References: <87my01m0zm.fsf@purkki.valot.fi> <4B5EF5DF.2070005@lemonia.org> <4B9942A7.40205@redfish-solutions.com> <20100311.112754.142886660.davem@davemloft.net> In-Reply-To: <20100311.112754.142886660.davem@davemloft.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 03/11/2010 12:27 PM, David Miller wrote: > From: "Philip A. Prindeville" > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:21:11 -0700 > >> And yes, there will always be misbehaving users. They are a fact of >> life. That doesn't mean we should lobotomize the network. We don't >> have an authentication mechanism on ICMP Redirects or Source-Quench, > > Which is why most networks block those packets from the outside. > >> Nor is ARP authenticated. > > Which is why people control who can plug into their physical > network. > > None of the things you are saying support the idea of having > applications decide what the DSCP marking should be. Does "decide what the DSCP marking should be" include complying to the recommendations of RFC-4594?