Subject: Re: [PATCH] ath9k: make driver usable standalone
From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor?= Stefanik <netrolller.3d@gmail.com>,
	Pavel Ivanov <paivanof@gmail.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>,
	Jouni Malinen <jmalinen@atheros.com>,
	Vasanthakumar Thiagarajan <vasanth@atheros.com>,
	Senthil Balasubramanian <senthilkumar@atheros.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, ath9k-devel@venema.h4ckr.net,
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:18:09 -0500
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On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 18:51 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:25:49 +0200, Gábor Stefanik said:
> 
> > Iwconfig and iwlist are themselves deprecated. Iw is the new wireless
> > configuration tool.
> 
> Somebody better tell Fedora Rawhide - as of the version released on July 27,
> their 'initscripts' RPM was still using iwconfig in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-wireless
> 
> So don't be quite so fast to be declaring WIRELESS_EXT dead just yet.

Given that nobody has stepped up to write patches to convert them to use
iw (or wpa_supplicant in the *correct* manner), and that for the most
part wifi on Fedora goes through NetworkManager and/or wpa_supplicant,
it's not surprising.  I don't have any particular interest in keeping
the existing ifup-wireless iwconfig hackery around, instead if it's
converted at all, it should be converted to use wpa_supplicant instead,
in the manner in which I've described in the various bug reports that
keep coming up.  That means not just pointing wpa_supplicant at a config
file, but instead keeping the options in the ifcfg file and writing out
a temporary wpa_supplicant config on-the-fly so that it integrates with
existing administrator expectations and workflow.

Dan