Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:65098 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751383Ab1IZNra (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:47:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:45:53 +0200 From: Stanislaw Gruszka To: Felix Fietkau Cc: Rajkumar Manoharan , johannes@sipsolutions.net, linville@tuxdriver.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC v3] mac80211: Send nullfunc frames at lower rate Message-ID: <20110926134552.GC2273@redhat.com> (sfid-20110926_154735_903901_EC16A860) References: <1317039804-8521-1-git-send-email-rmanohar@qca.qualcomm.com> <4E807F71.1010809@openwrt.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4E807F71.1010809@openwrt.org> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 07:34:41AM -0600, Felix Fietkau wrote: > On 2011-09-26 6:23 AM, Rajkumar Manoharan wrote: > >Recently mac80211 was changed to use nullfunc instead of probe > >request for connection monitoring for tx ack status reporting > >hardwares. These nullfunc data frames are being sent at higer > >rates and also as aggregated ones. This could probably delays > >the nullfunc ack so the connection is more frequently getting > >disconnected as max retries are reached. In order to improve > >the connectivity send the nullfunc at lower rate. > I don't think nullfunc frames should be sent at the lowest rate. If > they fail frequently, then the rate control module is doing > something crappy and should be fixed. So far I haven't seen any > nullfunc reliablity issues with minstrel_ht. > Also, as far as I know, mac80211 sends non-QoS nullfunc frames, so > they cannot get aggregated either. Perhaps nullfunc should be send at lowest rate only when it is used for connection monitoring, but I'm not sure if we can easily distinguish that. Stanislaw