Return-path: Received: from smtp-out003.kontent.com ([81.88.40.217]:43135 "EHLO smtp-out003.kontent.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753179Ab1LaQJy (ORCPT ); Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:09:54 -0500 From: Oliver Neukum To: Alan Stern Subject: Re: loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled. Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:59:48 +0100 Cc: Matthew Garrett , Linus Torvalds , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel , Larry Finger , Chaoming Li , "John W. Linville" , "Greg Kroah-Hartman" , USB list , Linux Wireless List References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <201112311659.48427.oliver@neukum.org> (sfid-20111231_170958_240013_00E64F3B) Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Am Samstag, 31. Dezember 2011, 16:33:12 schrieb Alan Stern: > Nothing has changed in the USB layer -- it has always been true that > devices could be reset during a suspend/resume cycle. This isn't a > matter of how the stack is written or anything like that; some > motherboards simply do not provide suspend power to their USB > controllers. Or the firmware reinitializes the controllers and > attached devices during resume, forcing Linux's USB core to reset > every device on the affected buses. > > When it comes to suspend/resume, there are almost no guarantees. :-( We are definitely going through do_unbind_rebind(). But I don't think it matters why we got there. We seem to be calling probe() too early. And we need to guarantee that a driver can request firmware in probe() So something has changed in the resume code path further up. Regards Oliver