Return-path: Received: from mail.ukfsn.org ([77.75.108.3]:35731 "EHLO mail.ukfsn.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756081Ab2BGWrN convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:47:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (smtp-filter.ukfsn.org [192.168.54.205]) by mail.ukfsn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EEFDEB6D for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:47:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.ukfsn.org ([192.168.54.25]) by localhost (smtp-filter.ukfsn.org [192.168.54.205]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xIF8hmopMfp4 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2012 23:21:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stargate.localnet (unknown [84.45.236.142]) by mail.ukfsn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECEBDEB9E for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:47:12 +0000 (GMT) From: David Goodenough To: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Norway (NO) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:47:08 +0000 References: <87pqgkxn25.fsf@nemi.mork.no> <20120207195415.GG5560@tuxdriver.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Message-Id: <201202072247.08793.david.goodenough@btconnect.com> (sfid-20120207_234720_242339_A4BF12C5) Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tuesday 07 Feb 2012, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:54 AM, John W. Linville > > wrote: > > Well, sorry for the delay... I will take this silence as "no > > objection". :-) > > Sorry, I did get a reply by Michael Green on 11/28/2011 but I never > followed up with the list. Apologies as well with the delay, but here > is our review. > > The European Union has some harmonized European radio conformance spec > and QCA's interpretation and position is that that spec overrides > deviations for end products for specific countries like the one being > recommended for Norway. This also means that QCA does not deviate for > EU countries on specs, even if countries have their own quirks, for > any country in the EU. Except that Norway is not in the EU. David > > Supporting changes like these are a deviation from what QCA is used to > using and testing and we unfortunately cannot verify any individual > country specific changes like the one proposed for the EU. It is also > our sentiment that we stand to gain more if we simply unify the EU > requirements through the harmonized spec, it provides simplicity, its > what we use and we can help in that regards. If wireless-regdb decides > to take a different path we simply will not be able to verify and > validate these changes. I'd be surprised if any other 802.11 vendor > differs from this position. > > Luis > > > Bjørn, could you give me a "Signed-off-by" line as well? > > > > Thanks, > > > > John > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 01:19:12PM -0500, John W. Linville wrote: > >> Any comments from the regulatory experts in the group? > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 03:13:22PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: > >> > As mentioned by Robert Grønning in June, Norway > >> > does allow a few more bands than what's currently in the database. > >> > In particular, the old ISM band at 5725 - 5875 MHz is and has > >> > "always" been allowed. > >> > > >> > The regulations [1] have some weird restrictions wrt power densities > >> > etc which I have no idea how to describe in a format suitable for the > >> > db. I've tried my best to make sure the entries are within the rules. > >> > > >> > The regulations also allow up to 1 W eirp in the band 5470 - 5725 MHz, > >> > and up to 4 W eirp in the bands 5725 - 5795 MHz and 5815 - 5850 MHz if > >> > TPC is in use. The limits are reduced by 3dB without TPC. As I don't > >> > know how to express the TPC requirement, I've chosen to put the > >> > reduced limits (500 mW and 2 W) in the db entries. This also matches > >> > the German (DE) entry for 5470 - 5725 MHz, so I guess it must make > >> > some sense... > >> > > >> > I also have no idea which SI prefixes you allow in the database, so > >> > I've used whatever was in the regulations. Please adjust as needed > >> > if only mW or dB is acceptable. Or let me know and I'll provide an > >> > updated patch. > >> > > >> > > >> > Patch attached. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > References: > >> > > >> > [1] Current Norwegian regulations: > >> > > >> > http://www.lovdata.no/cgi-wift/ldles?doc=/sf/sf/sf-20090602-0580.html > >> > > >> > [2] The Norwegian Post and Telecommunications Authority provides an > >> > unofficial english translation of these regulations: > >> > http://www.npt.no/ikbViewer/Content/103810/Regulations_concerning_gen > >> > eral_authorisations_for_the_use_of_radio_frequencies.pdf > >> > > >> > > >> > [3] Appendix 1 of ERC/REC 70-03 provides generic information about > >> > licensing status for Short Range Devices (SRD) in most CEPT > >> > countries: > >> > http://www.ecodocdb.dk/doks/filedownload.aspx?fileid=1694&fileurl=htt > >> > p://www.erodocdb.dk/Docs/doc98/official/pdf/REC7003E.PDF > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Bjørn > >> > > >> > diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt > >> > index e63a43e..375187f 100644 > >> > --- a/db.txt > >> > +++ b/db.txt > >> > @@ -469,11 +469,20 @@ country NL: > >> > (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS > >> > (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS > >> > > >> > +# Data from > >> > http://www.lovdata.no/cgi-wift/ldles?doc=/sf/sf/sf-20090602-0580.html > >> > country NO: > >> > - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) > >> > - (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) > >> > - (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS > >> > - (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS > >> > + # § 7 (2) > >> > + (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) > >> > + # § 7 (3) > >> > + (5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW) > >> > + # § 7 (4) > >> > + (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), DFS > >> > + # § 7 (5) > >> > + (5725 - 5795 @ 40), (N/A, 2 W), DFS > >> > + (5815 - 5850 @ 40), (N/A, 2 W), DFS > >> > + # § 7 (6) > >> > + (5725 - 5795 @ 40), (23, 1 W), DFS, PTP-ONLY > >> > + (5815 - 5850 @ 40), (23, 1 W), DFS, PTP-ONLY > >> > > >> > country NP: > >> > (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) > >> > >> -- > >> John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and > >> you linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. > >> Be ready. -- > >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > >> linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > > > -- > > John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and > > you linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be > > ready. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wireless-regdb mailing list > > wireless-regdb@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-regdb > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" > in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html