Return-path: Received: from mail-gg0-f174.google.com ([209.85.161.174]:59060 "EHLO mail-gg0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753221Ab2HTPxu (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:53:50 -0400 Received: by ggdk6 with SMTP id k6so5136567ggd.19 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50325D89.9080209@lwfinger.net> (sfid-20120820_175359_118501_EB784972) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:53:45 -0500 From: Larry Finger MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johannes Berg CC: Intel Linux Wireless , linux-wireless , Ben Hutchings Subject: Re: Missing firmware iwlwifi-2030-5.ucode References: <502D0C72.2050207@lwfinger.net> (sfid-20120816_170635_404509_F239FBF6) <1345459509.4459.5.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net> In-Reply-To: <1345459509.4459.5.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 08/20/2012 05:45 AM, Johannes Berg wrote: Johannes, > Unfortunately, I can't just release this firmware, it was mostly > internal experimental builds, we released the -6 version later. However, > as Thomas pointed out, it should be possible to backport some patches to > make the driver in 3.1.9 work with the device, that simply wasn't a > concern for us and it's not entirely clear to me that such patches are > candidates for stable. The openSUSE user has gotten his system working by installing the compat-wireless package. I do not know if he could patch and compile his own kernel, and I don't have that device in my collection, thus I would be unable to test any such changes. I'm still concerned about the bigger picture. I can understand that the -5 version was experimental, but why was a driver released that needed a firmware version that could never be obtained? If any driver version needs a particular firmware, the fw must be available as long as anyone might be using that driver. To me, that means forever. Larry