Return-path: Received: from he.sipsolutions.net ([78.46.109.217]:37173 "EHLO sipsolutions.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755953Ab2HTQBj (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:01:39 -0400 Message-ID: <1345478494.4459.30.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net> (sfid-20120820_180155_448403_48417B1D) Subject: Re: Missing firmware iwlwifi-2030-5.ucode From: Johannes Berg To: Larry Finger Cc: Intel Linux Wireless , linux-wireless , Ben Hutchings Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:01:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <50325D89.9080209@lwfinger.net> (sfid-20120820_175351_872841_14CD8D92) References: <502D0C72.2050207@lwfinger.net> (sfid-20120816_170635_404509_F239FBF6) <1345459509.4459.5.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net> <50325D89.9080209@lwfinger.net> (sfid-20120820_175351_872841_14CD8D92) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 10:53 -0500, Larry Finger wrote: > I'm still concerned about the bigger picture. I can understand that the -5 > version was experimental, but why was a driver released that needed a firmware > version that could never be obtained? If any driver version needs a particular > firmware, the fw must be available as long as anyone might be using that driver. > To me, that means forever. Well, yes. That firmware, however, never was never available publicly. The fact that the driver was released anyway is due to us working on the driver upstream while working with the experimental internal firmware. johannes