Return-path: Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:58412 "EHLO out1-smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755717Ab3EHQXx (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 May 2013 12:23:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 09:23:50 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Larry Finger Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-wireless , LKML , netdev , Dan Williams , 'George0505' , Joon Ro Subject: Re: Linux driver for Realtek RTL8723AU devices with USB ID 0bda:1724 such as found in Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 Message-ID: <20130508162350.GC28080@kroah.com> (sfid-20130508_182414_643553_92A586B1) References: <5159B52D.3050601@lwfinger.net> <5189B939.4010905@zytor.com> <518A7814.1070604@lwfinger.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <518A7814.1070604@lwfinger.net> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:06:44AM -0500, Larry Finger wrote: > On 05/07/2013 09:32 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > >So I can verify that this driver works against 3.8.11 (not against > >current -linus because of a build failure), and yes, there is Bluetooth > >in this device. In fact, it seems to work better than some in-tree > >drivers I have seen in the past. > > > >However, I'm confused as to the above and what it implies for the > >purpose of the staging tree. Wasn't the whole point of the staging tree > >to have a working-but-ugly driver upstream and have the work to clean it > >up happen in the mainline tree instead of off somewhere. > > Yes, but even staging has some standards. I have standards? That's a first :) > For example, they frown on inclusion of firmware in a massive data > block in a file in the driver - it should be in a separate file the > /lib/firmware/ tree. Sure, that would be "nice", but it's not something that I should reject a driver for, have I done that? > In addition, the mainline drivers/net/wireless/ tree is only available > to devices that use mac80211 for the software-based MAC layer. That > conversion is a serious effort that may never be done, thus the > 8723au driver may never leave staging. That's a bigger deal, but note, some drivers have done it, it is not impossible. thanks, greg k-h