Return-path: Received: from mailservices.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.128.141]:45322 "EHLO minos.uwaterloo.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752397AbaJXUms (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:42:48 -0400 Message-ID: <544AB9B8.9050407@mailservices.uwaterloo.ca> (sfid-20141024_224251_603253_AD241DDA) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:42:32 -0400 From: Ali Abedi MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Chadd CC: ath9k-devel@venema.h4ckr.net, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: strange MPDU loss pattern References: <544A7871.7020005@mailservices.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: We don't use a rate adaptation at this moment (i.e., fixed rate) and the setup is stationary. So we expect to see relatively stable channel conditions. Even if the channel conditions change during the aggregated frame. The first half of the MPDUs have the same chance of experiencing worse channel conditions. Thank, Ali On 14-10-24 03:13 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > It's not completely unsurprising - the initial channel estimate and > such is done at the beginning of each packet and stays constant. So if > there's some varying channel conditions that change that during the > duration of a packet, the tail end is going to end up having less SNR > and may end up getting more errors. > > > -adrian > > On 24 October 2014 09:04, Ali Abedi wrote: >> Hello, >> >> We study the effects of 802.11n frame aggregation on throughput. We noticed >> a >> strange pattern in the MPDU loss within an aggregated frame. It seems that >> the >> second half of the MPDUs (those with higher sequence numbers) in an >> aggregated frame >> are more likely to be lost. Is this a known fact or is there any explanation >> for it? >> >> For example if 32 frames are aggregated with sequence numbers 100 to 131. >> Frames with sequence numbers 100-115 are more likely to be received >> correctly >> than 116-131. >> >> >> Best, >> Ali >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html