Return-path: Received: from mail-qa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.216.53]:41229 "EHLO mail-qa0-f53.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751429AbaLaV6A (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:58:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20141231214421.GA29273@thunk.org> References: <54A328C2.5080606@lwfinger.net> <54A3D955.6020809@broadcom.com> <0BA3FCBA62E2DC44AF3030971E174FB31B5DD72E@hasmsx107.ger.corp.intel.com> <54A3E1F1.7030807@broadcom.com> <54A41000.3040306@broadcom.com> <20141231173113.GA443@thunk.org> <54A45D4D.7070302@broadcom.com> <20141231214421.GA29273@thunk.org> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:57:59 -0800 Message-ID: (sfid-20141231_225820_232692_4A5E7A22) Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "cfg80211: make WEXT compatibility unselectable" From: Linus Torvalds To: "Theodore Ts'o" , Arend van Spriel , Jiri Kosina , "Grumbach, Emmanuel" , Linus Torvalds , Borislav Petkov , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "egrumbach@gmail.com" , "peter@hurleysoftware.com" , "ilw@linux.intel.com" , "Berg, Johannes" , Larry Finger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > Yeah, the confusing part is that "ip" tends to use "verb object" > scheme, which is consistent with the Cisco IOS command set it was > trying to emulate. Side note: does anybody think that was really a good idea to begin with? I mean, Cisco iOS is just _soooo_ universally loved, right? And yeah, I refuse to use "ip link" or other insane commands. Let's face it, "ifconfig" and "route" are perfectly fine commands, and a whole lot less confusing than "ip" with random crap after it. I'm really not seeing why that "ip" command was seen as an improvement. (Ok, "ip route" isn't any more complex than "route", but "ip link" sure as hell isn't simpler than "ifconfig" for most things I can think of) Linus