Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 06:11:27 +0100
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
Cc: "Grumbach, Emmanuel" <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"egrumbach@gmail.com" <egrumbach@gmail.com>,
	"ilw@linux.intel.com" <ilw@linux.intel.com>,
	"Berg, Johannes" <johannes.berg@intel.com>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "cfg80211: make WEXT compatibility unselectable"
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On Wed 2014-12-31 08:49:00, Peter Hurley wrote:
> On 12/31/2014 08:26 AM, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 31 Dec 2014, Arend van Spriel wrote:
> >>
> >>> You mentioned in the discussion and I quote: "*If* wireless
> >>> maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert request to Linus for
> >>> consideration.". However, you did not wait for any response from the
> >>> wireless maintainers nor from the author of the patch you are reverting.
> >>> Seems like an overreaction to me though personally I do not disgree
> >>> with the revert itself.
> >>
> >> My understanding from the whole thread was that Emmanuel disagrees with
> >> the revert, and I consider Emmanuel to definitely belong to the "wireless
> >> maintainers" group. If my understanding was wrong on this, sorry for that.
> > 
> > You understanding is wrong. This patch has an author and you could I didn't
> > sign-off the patch which is an obvious indication I am not a "wireless maintainer".
> > You didn't even make the minimal effort to check how this patch should be properly
> > routed.
> > 
> > Regardless of all this, I didn't say I disagree, I said that we need to find a way to signal
> > the userland developers that an API will be deprecated at some point. I haven't seen
> > any response / suggestion from you on that.
> 
> pr_notice_once("WEXT compatibility has been deprecated since _____" \
>                " Upgrade your userspace tools to nl80211!\n");

Kernel interfaces are not being removed, not now, not ever. No need to
spam logs.

(And to the person who suggested WARN(): No.)

									Pavel
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