Return-path: Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.220.53]:36328 "EHLO mail-pa0-f53.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751827AbcAZF2i (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Jan 2016 00:28:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:58:23 +0530 From: Sudip Mukherjee To: Kalle Valo Cc: "John W. Linville" , Joe Perches , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, kbuild test robot , kernel-janitors , LKML Subject: Re: wireless-drivers: random cleanup patches piling up Message-ID: <20160126052823.GA2053@sudip-laptop> (sfid-20160126_062934_418012_73857B77) References: <87wpr3x9ln.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> <1453423965.3856.22.camel@perches.com> <87k2n1x0sf.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> <20160122151211.GB1500@tuxdriver.com> <87si1pvcd7.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In-Reply-To: <87si1pvcd7.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 05:54:12PM +0200, Kalle Valo wrote: > "John W. Linville" writes: > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 02:21:20PM +0200, Kalle Valo wrote: > >> Joe Perches writes: > >> > >> > On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 16:58 +0200, Kalle Valo wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I have quite a lot of random cleanup patches from new developers waiting > >> >> in my queue: > >> >> > >> >> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/?state=10&delegate=25621&order=date > >> >> > >> >> (Not all of them are cleanup patches, there are also few patches > >> >> deferred due to other reasons, but you get the idea.) > >> >> > >> >> These cleanup patches usually take quite a lot of my time and I'm > >> >> starting to doubt the benefit, compared to the time needed to dig > >> >> through them and figuring out what to apply. And this is of course time > >> >> away from other patches, so it's slowing down "real" development. > >> >> > >> >> I really don't know what to do. Part of me is saying that I just should > >> >> drop them unless it's reviewed by a more experienced developer but on > >> >> the other hand this is a good way get new developers onboard. > >> >> > >> >> What others think? Are these kind of patches useful? > >> > > >> > Some yes, mostly not really. > >> > > >> > While whitespace style patches have some small value, > >> > very few of the new contributors that use tools like > >> > "scripts/checkpatch.pl -f" on various kernel files? > >> > actually continue on to submit actual defect fixing > >> > or optimization or code clarity patches. > >> > >> That's also my experience from maintaining wireless-drivers for a year, > >> this seems to be a "hit and run" type of phenomenon. > > > > Should we be looking for someone to run a "wireless-driver-cleanups" > > tree? They could handle the cleanups and trivial stuff, and send > > you a pull request a couple of times per release...? > > Not a bad idea! But I don't think we need a separate tree as applying > patches from patchwork is easy. It should be doable that we add an > account to patchwork and whenever I see a this type of trivial cleanup > patch I'll assign it to the cleanup maintainer and whenever he/she > thinks it's ready he assigns the patch back to me and I'll apply it. > > The only difficult part is finding a victim/volunteer to > do that ;) I can be a volunteer (victim?). Though i donot know much about wireless-drivers, but I do know a little about cleanup patches. And maybe, in the process I will start knowing wireless-drivers. regards sudip