Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ath10k: remove 10.1 firmware support
To: Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>
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Cc: Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@qti.qualcomm.com>,
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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:36:15 -0700
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On 06/03/2016 09:28 AM, Rajkumar Manoharan wrote:
> On 2016-06-03 21:37, Ben Greear wrote:
>> On 06/03/2016 08:55 AM, Rajkumar Manoharan wrote:
>>> On 2016-06-03 21:18, Ben Greear wrote:
>>>> On 06/03/2016 08:33 AM, Rajkumar Manoharan wrote:
>>>>> Earlier qca9888 device was brought up using 10.1 firmware and then
>>>>> later all firmware fixes and new features are migrated to 10.2/10.2.x
>>>>> firmware branch. As all of 10.1 funtionalities are supported in 10.2
>>>>> based firmware, removing 10.1 firmware support for qca9888 device.
>>>>
>>>> Oh please do not do this.  My 10.1 firmware works very nicely,
>>>> and out-performs 10.2 in my testing.  Lots of people use my firmware
>>>> when they need IBSS support or other features not found in
>>>> official firmware, so it is not just me that will have
>>>> problems if you remove this support.
>>>>
>>> Aah.. I thought CT firmware is 10.2 based. Since most of firmware bug fixes and enhancements are integrated into 10.2 based firmware, we thought of get rid of
>>> 10.1 firmware to reduce code size. Moreover existing 10.1 official firmware has known issues. Is it possible to upgrade CT firmware to 10.2 WMI/HTT interfaces?
>>
>> I have a 10.2 firmware too, but it is less stable, performs worse,
>> uses more RAM on the NIC (so I can do fewer virtual stations),
>> and I am not sure I can squeeze enough RAM out of it to port some
>> of the more interesting rate-ctrl fixes from 10.1 to 10.2.
>> I have recently started backporting a lot of 10.2.4 changes
>> into 10.1, which will aid any users on pre 4.0 kernels since they cannot
>> run 10.2.4 firmware w/out backporting.
>>
>> I might could make my 10.1 work with a 10.2 driver API, but it would
>> take quite a bit of
>> effort, way more than what removing 10.1 from the driver saves in my opinion.
>> The driver already separates firmware specific logic pretty well, so I
>> don't think
>> it should be a huge maintenance effort to keep 10.1 support in the driver.
>>
>> Maybe you could delete the 10.2 (not 10.2.4) firmware support and gain
>> some space that way?  I
>> doubt anyone is using that productively....
>>
> Nope. There are customers who are still using 10.2.2 firmware. My kind advice is that please try to optimize latest firmware. 10.2 is nothing but based on 10.1
> trunk so there wont be much interface difference... Will drop this series as of now...

10.2 has a significant re-work of the rate-ctrl.  I think that is the main difference
that I see.

Maybe I can just copy the 10.1 rate-ctrl over 10.2 and get back the memory and performance
that I need.  But, I have a bunch of other stuff to do first.

Thanks,
Ben


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