Return-path: Received: from s3.sipsolutions.net ([144.76.63.242]:36260 "EHLO sipsolutions.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751572AbdJRUec (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Oct 2017 16:34:32 -0400 Message-ID: <1508358869.2674.55.camel@sipsolutions.net> (sfid-20171018_223449_539233_592E9BDE) Subject: Re: Setting single rate in ath10k broken by "reject/clear user rate mask if not usable" From: Johannes Berg To: Oleksij Rempel , Ben Greear , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , ath10k , kirtika@google.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 22:34:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8c2e0e98-f3f4-6e0c-1bf0-43dfa6e97275@rempel-privat.de> (sfid-20171018_195626_878094_461B764D) References: <13895fa0-3685-dd2b-583d-2d6469d23cfe@candelatech.com> <1507708948.1998.15.camel@sipsolutions.net> <2c293255-aa79-75a0-1c28-994f864cddf4@candelatech.com> <1508312033.2674.9.camel@sipsolutions.net> <2ad42671-59c4-80ed-4bca-f874eb53d653@candelatech.com> <8c2e0e98-f3f4-6e0c-1bf0-43dfa6e97275@rempel-privat.de> (sfid-20171018_195626_878094_461B764D) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hi, On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 19:56 +0200, Oleksij Rempel wrote: > > > People trying to do regulatory testing want this feature, and other people > > that are not me also like to test with specific rates. Still a > > small-ish set of people, but bigger than just me at least. > > Till now i was interviewing different people who was asking for this for > ath9k-htc. So I would say we have: > - academical researchers > - testers > - R&D > - exploit and penetration testers > - HAM > - just hackers > > As for me, it sounds a s lot. Making (literally) millions of devices in the field hit a WARN_ON() is not really acceptable either though. You can argue that this introduced a regression, but putting the old behaviour back would equally be a regression, for more systems by a few orders of magnitude. In any case, I've already suggested a way to fix this, but you've both completely ignored that part of my email. All I've been reading is that you're demanding that I fix this, and arguments about how much people are allowed to shoot themselves in the foot, none of which is very constructive. I might even fix it myself eventually, if only to appease the people who say we have a zero tolerance no regressions rule, but it's not exactly the most important thing I'm doing right now (also, I'll be going on vacation for a few days, and you can probably implement my suggestion in that time, and then I can review it when I get back on Monday.) Let's just say that I think we're discussing the wrong thing here - we ought to be discussing how it can be fixed, and perhaps you can even be constructive in suggesting (and testing, which I can't really do) changes. johannes