Return-path: Received: from mail-wm0-f68.google.com ([74.125.82.68]:38443 "EHLO mail-wm0-f68.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030337AbeE0Oh7 (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 May 2018 10:37:59 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f68.google.com with SMTP id m129-v6so25742130wmb.3 for ; Sun, 27 May 2018 07:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 0/5] Update brcm firmware files From: Hans de Goede To: Arend van Spriel , Josh Boyer Cc: Linux Firmware , chi-hsien.lin@cypress.com, Linux Wireless , brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@broadcom.com, brcm80211-dev-list@cypress.com, franky.lin@broadcom.com, hante.meuleman@broadcom.com, wright.feng@cypress.com References: <1521209329-59441-1-git-send-email-chi-hsien.lin@cypress.com> <5AF960B6.2010709@broadcom.com> <5AFA9DB0.7060703@broadcom.com> Message-ID: <1aeb2068-1630-b554-2117-3aa68bdf0eea@redhat.com> (sfid-20180527_163831_403176_B2A82046) Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 16:37:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hi, On 18-05-18 09:04, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 15-05-18 10:43, Arend van Spriel wrote: >> On 5/14/2018 2:05 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> n Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:11 AM Arend van Spriel < >>> arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/16/2018 3:08 PM, Chi-Hsien Lin wrote: >>>>> Update brcm firmware files and WHENCE accordingly. >>> >>>> Hi firmware-maintainers, >>> >>>> It seems this series somehow got lost. Can these still be applied. They >>>> can be found in the linux-wireless patchwork database. I provided links >>>> below. >>> >>> All 5 of these move the respective firmware files under the Cypress >>> license.  It has been pointed out that the Cypress license has some >>> questionable language in it and that people have been in touch to try and >>> get this resolved.  I'm personally waiting on applying them until the >>> licence issue is sorted out. >> >> Thanks, Josh >> >> I could not find any such response. Has it been taken off-list? Seems like 2 months is quite some time, but maybe there are lawyers involved ;-) > > Yes the discussion about this has been happening off-list. IANAL but > the gist of it is (AFAIK) that: > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/LICENCE.cypress > > has a clause which allows Cypress to retro-actively revoke the LICENSE: > > "either party may terminate this Agreement at any time with or without cause." > ... > "Upon termination, you must destroy all copies of Software in your possession or > control." > > So upon revokation we would have to remove the files from linux-firmware > (rewrite git history?) and since distros get their redistribution rights > from this license too they would also need to remove it from their packages > including all mirrors and archives of older versions. Which simply is not > feasible and no other license in linux-firmware has such a clause. Chi-Hsien or other people from Cypress, any progress on getting the license updated to remove the troublesome termination without cause clause? Non of the other vendors with firmware in Linux firmware deem it necessary to have such a patch. Given that the proposed firmware updates which this is blocking are *SECURITY* fixes it would be good to get this resolved ASAP. Regards, Hans