Return-path: Received: from mail-co1nam03on0092.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([104.47.40.92]:37328 "EHLO NAM03-CO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753186AbeE3H3K (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 May 2018 03:29:10 -0400 Reply-To: chi-hsien.lin@cypress.com Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 0/5] Update brcm firmware files To: Hans de Goede , Arend van Spriel , Josh Boyer Cc: Linux Firmware , Linux Wireless , brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@broadcom.com, brcm80211-dev-list@cypress.com, franky.lin@broadcom.com, hante.meuleman@broadcom.com, wright.feng@cypress.com References: <1521209329-59441-1-git-send-email-chi-hsien.lin@cypress.com> <5AF960B6.2010709@broadcom.com> <5AFA9DB0.7060703@broadcom.com> <1aeb2068-1630-b554-2117-3aa68bdf0eea@redhat.com> From: Chi-Hsien Lin Message-ID: <8688d1c7-8222-d51f-4bc7-400786b27526@cypress.com> (sfid-20180530_093032_038956_54744492) Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 15:28:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1aeb2068-1630-b554-2117-3aa68bdf0eea@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 05/27/2018 10:37, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 18-05-18 09:04, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 15-05-18 10:43, Arend van Spriel wrote: >>> On 5/14/2018 2:05 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>>> n Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:11 AM Arend van Spriel < >>>> arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 3/16/2018 3:08 PM, Chi-Hsien Lin wrote: >>>>>> Update brcm firmware files and WHENCE accordingly. >>>> >>>>> Hi firmware-maintainers, >>>> >>>>> It seems this series somehow got lost. Can these still be applied. >>>>> They >>>>> can be found in the linux-wireless patchwork database. I provided >>>>> links >>>>> below. >>>> >>>> All 5 of these move the respective firmware files under the Cypress >>>> license.  It has been pointed out that the Cypress license has some >>>> questionable language in it and that people have been in touch to >>>> try and >>>> get this resolved.  I'm personally waiting on applying them until the >>>> licence issue is sorted out. >>> >>> Thanks, Josh >>> >>> I could not find any such response. Has it been taken off-list? Seems >>> like 2 months is quite some time, but maybe there are lawyers >>> involved ;-) >> >> Yes the discussion about this has been happening off-list. IANAL but >> the gist of it is (AFAIK) that: >> >> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/LICENCE.cypress >> >> >> has a clause which allows Cypress to retro-actively revoke the LICENSE: >> >> "either party may terminate this Agreement at any time with or without >> cause." >> ... >> "Upon termination, you must destroy all copies of Software in your >> possession or >> control." >> >> So upon revokation we would have to remove the files from linux-firmware >> (rewrite git history?) and since distros get their redistribution rights >> from this license too they would also need to remove it from their >> packages >> including all mirrors and archives of older versions. Which simply is not >> feasible and no other license in linux-firmware has such a clause. > > Chi-Hsien or other people from Cypress, any progress on getting the license > updated to remove the troublesome termination without cause clause? Hi all, I have received the updated license from the Legal department today. Have just submitted a V4 with the updated license. Regards, Chi-hsien Lin > > Non of the other vendors with firmware in Linux firmware deem it necessary > to have such a patch. > > Given that the proposed firmware updates which this is blocking are > *SECURITY* fixes it would be good to get this resolved ASAP. > > Regards, > > Hans