Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2A5C43381 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEF6214AE for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=nbd.name header.i=@nbd.name header.b="n6mJQgOF" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726686AbfCMOVJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Mar 2019 10:21:09 -0400 Received: from nbd.name ([46.4.11.11]:50498 "EHLO nbd.name" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725926AbfCMOVJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Mar 2019 10:21:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nbd.name; s=20160729; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4duQ7zOHKWvIyHS24TroDC84YUYx6u9brqFm6Dc83qM=; b=n6mJQgOFLV6YY9nE7j2jbUpdNm Q1i1mYWzS43lXbtCFuFVBT4lxszjrSTZekd7Qo+WbcvJ4qcCZIOXzvWHStRyySwr5vxee8ZpiMUcX 0ZfDz6GMNji7KLlz2EdTFukf1js78TneMPOf9RG1I6L+FllPx40jii576bXAgOA5pp8k=; Received: from p4ff1316d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([79.241.49.109] helo=nf.local) by ds12 with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h44kl-0001nc-Ng; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:21:07 +0100 Subject: Re: [RFC] mt76: add 3dBm for reporting txpower also for 1x1 To: Tom Psyborg Cc: Stanislaw Gruszka , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Lorenzo Bianconi References: <1552484061-4647-1-git-send-email-sgruszka@redhat.com> <795dd253-53db-d837-4da6-6016a096cdc7@nbd.name> From: Felix Fietkau Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=nbd@nbd.name; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQGiBEah5CcRBADIY7pu4LIv3jBlyQ/2u87iIZGe6f0f8pyB4UjzfJNXhJb8JylYYRzIOSxh ExKsdLCnJqsG1PY1mqTtoG8sONpwsHr2oJ4itjcGHfn5NJSUGTbtbbxLro13tHkGFCoCr4Z5 Pv+XRgiANSpYlIigiMbOkide6wbggQK32tC20QxUIwCg4k6dtV/4kwEeiOUfErq00TVqIiEE AKcUi4taOuh/PQWx/Ujjl/P1LfJXqLKRPa8PwD4j2yjoc9l+7LptSxJThL9KSu6gtXQjcoR2 vCK0OeYJhgO4kYMI78h1TSaxmtImEAnjFPYJYVsxrhay92jisYc7z5R/76AaELfF6RCjjGeP wdalulG+erWju710Bif7E1yjYVWeA/9Wd1lsOmx6uwwYgNqoFtcAunDaMKi9xVQW18FsUusM TdRvTZLBpoUAy+MajAL+R73TwLq3LnKpIcCwftyQXK5pEDKq57OhxJVv1Q8XkA9Dn1SBOjNB l25vJDFAT9ntp9THeDD2fv15yk4EKpWhu4H00/YX8KkhFsrtUs69+vZQwbQcRmVsaXggRmll dGthdSA8bmJkQG5iZC5uYW1lPohgBBMRAgAgBQJGoeQnAhsjBgsJCAcDAgQVAggDBBYCAwEC HgECF4AACgkQ130UHQKnbvXsvgCgjsAIIOsY7xZ8VcSm7NABpi91yTMAniMMmH7FRenEAYMa VrwYTIThkTlQuQINBEah5FQQCACMIep/hTzgPZ9HbCTKm9xN4bZX0JjrqjFem1Nxf3MBM5vN CYGBn8F4sGIzPmLhl4xFeq3k5irVg/YvxSDbQN6NJv8o+tP6zsMeWX2JjtV0P4aDIN1pK2/w VxcicArw0VYdv2ZCarccFBgH2a6GjswqlCqVM3gNIMI8ikzenKcso8YErGGiKYeMEZLwHaxE Y7mTPuOTrWL8uWWRL5mVjhZEVvDez6em/OYvzBwbkhImrryF29e3Po2cfY2n7EKjjr3/141K DHBBdgXlPNfDwROnA5ugjjEBjwkwBQqPpDA7AYPvpHh5vLbZnVGu5CwG7NAsrb2isRmjYoqk wu++3117AAMFB/9S0Sj7qFFQcD4laADVsabTpNNpaV4wAgVTRHKV/kC9luItzwDnUcsZUPdQ f3MueRJ3jIHU0UmRBG3uQftqbZJj3ikhnfvyLmkCNe+/hXhPu9sGvXyi2D4vszICvc1KL4RD aLSrOsROx22eZ26KqcW4ny7+va2FnvjsZgI8h4sDmaLzKczVRIiLITiMpLFEU/VoSv0m1F4B FtRgoiyjFzigWG0MsTdAN6FJzGh4mWWGIlE7o5JraNhnTd+yTUIPtw3ym6l8P+gbvfoZida0 TspgwBWLnXQvP5EDvlZnNaKa/3oBes6z0QdaSOwZCRA3QSLHBwtgUsrT6RxRSweLrcabiEkE GBECAAkFAkah5FQCGwwACgkQ130UHQKnbvW2GgCfTKx80VvCR/PvsUlrvdOLsIgeRGAAn1ee RjMaxwtSdaCKMw3j33ZbsWS4 Message-ID: <33712ba1-27b3-282e-4fd5-86d5b52fd331@nbd.name> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:21:06 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On 2019-03-13 15:11, Tom Psyborg wrote: > On 13/03/2019, Felix Fietkau wrote: > >> The reason why we add 3dBm is because using two chains to transmit in >> the worst case (from regulatory point of view) doubles the transmit >> power (= +3dBm). > > An absurd idea that probably came from some misinformed regulatory > boys. There is no way to have 3dBm higher output power just because an > additional antenna exist. Even with 3x3 case it already proves as > inconsistent since there is no 6dB decrease but 5dB. Why would it be 6dB for 3x3? It's logarithmic: 2x2: 3dB 3x3: ~4.5dB 4x4: ~6dB 8x8: ~9dB You may not get +3dB actual output, but you do get some boost from the extra chain. - Felix