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[80.56.140.230]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t13sm575639ejo.45.2019.06.21.12.41.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [RFC 0/8] nl80211: add 6GHz band support From: Arend Van Spriel To: Johannes Berg Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org References: <1558353645-18119-1-git-send-email-arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com> <16aeb2310e8.2764.9b12b7fc0a3841636cfb5e919b41b954@broadcom.com> <9ba78df6-18a3-5c1c-6c57-3fa71531b460@broadcom.com> <6d40e69c-0cea-cc92-7974-c54d0f70812e@broadcom.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 21:41:49 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6d40e69c-0cea-cc92-7974-c54d0f70812e@broadcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On 6/3/2019 12:39 PM, Arend Van Spriel wrote: > On 5/27/2019 10:46 PM, Arend Van Spriel wrote: >> On 5/24/2019 8:38 PM, Arend Van Spriel wrote: >>> On May 24, 2019 1:56:43 PM Johannes Berg >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Arend, >>>> >>>> On Mon, 2019-05-20 at 14:00 +0200, Arend van Spriel wrote: >>>>> In 802.11ax D4.0 a new band has been proposed. This series contains >>>>> changes to cfg80211 for supporting this band. With 2GHz and 5GHz there >>>>> was no overlap in channel number. However, this new band has channel >>>>> numbers with a range from 1 up to 253. >>>> >>>> At the wireless workshop in Prague, we looked at this and sort of >>>> decided that it'd be better to put all the 6 GHz channels into the 5 >>>> GHz >>>> "band" in nl80211, to avoid all the "5 || 6" since they're really the >>>> same except for very specific places like scanning. >>> >>> Would have liked to be there, but attending is no longer an option >>> for me. We now have two autistic, non-verbal children and I am the >>> primary caregiver for the oldest because my wife can't handle him. >>> Guess I should have checked the workshop notes before working on this >>> :-) Do you have URL? >> >> Found the netdev wifi workshop page and looked over the slides >> quickly, but the notes page is pretty empty ;-) >> >>> Agree that most functional requirements for 6 GHz are same as 5 GHz. >>> There are some 6 GHz specifics about beaconing as well. >> >> This came up in discussion with my colleagues today and I would say >> from mac80211 perspective there is more to it than just scanning. In >> short the 6GHz band is for HE-only operation so for example only HE >> rates may be used. As the bitrates are in ieee80211_supported_band >> having a separate 6GHz band seems to have a (slight?) advantage. > > Hi, Johannes > > Any thoughts on this? Hi Johannes, It has been a while so maybe your thoughts are more concrete? ;-p I really would like this to move forward as I also noticed hostapd changes being posted for 6GHz support yesterday. Thanks, Arend