Received: by 2002:a25:8b12:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i18csp1273904ybl; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqytOrLXOH/KCsRpRZ7Tu105xxsQs9b1aYU4WnPdml6h0xWzxcLF3IsXsAbXavJdabgBcUqK X-Received: by 2002:a63:e48:: with SMTP id 8mr8879652pgo.389.1565981711346; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:55:11 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1565981711; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=umhSQi3ggRvLDFcCTGuVnu3KXBBAQPQiF86a8Dk6LXOrTYU1o0psk5tozRCwEF1eN3 IDC+0J1+6i59v2Z3PS6d7f3kZRXDowuq4U/pej5cT58gsxZyqFc9ZIBP8byjj+LgJVKq qBadtfh76P/xh+HLIUqkZDkof4L2xnlPgucjBcrCkXC97KU3WPQd/p8Rd4EK/YtAsH5P j8jTWRQOxQ1h690TCO089zoCMexeeaNxmRqPo2vO4h1wSKnSgooHIviBtVdYkxdyfso/ nUXbDOjzhilXH1evwXBDJMGtLqUdwftiEkk4eB4Xsn76/1+btssUsiW/GvwzAdxjw7E+ 1zHg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:to:references:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:cc:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version; bh=c4WgSGhohloTRmPTyyRZ6CddWE8x0xa5AXGsz72Jxz4=; b=NucG/PB2TI7kL97NmdB7sVzE0xPU3LoE5P64nVXcuUNYCIsgHapxBsx0NZBU1bW/do COosX2yO9S5yQoF9f2dw2oN/X5joBs8IIT041fVodKEAtQ4q3z7VAjOqeZHyjeW6Q8x1 ayup8IKCoWswUBQTxIGuW+3pTgfLYW2ewEwSk5HfXyugbPoJSYvkSYukjviZY8Bc1gA8 S0LG61kOJBeoafo7rd7SlGLOSiJ4Yw3bUQmF7WdcnrDoHeAZItCyGgxOf8xG4PCKVz9K XCsxKx6vT6wL66lHEVNTn2spxuJGU3nPGtaq/uNa/gStIsKUlf5F56En3j2SBfBKsWmA SUSA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r14si4327449pgi.513.2019.08.16.11.54.56; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727498AbfHPSys convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:54:48 -0400 Received: from coyote.holtmann.net ([212.227.132.17]:47369 "EHLO mail.holtmann.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727493AbfHPSys (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:54:48 -0400 Received: from marcel-macbook.fritz.box (p4FEFC580.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.239.197.128]) by mail.holtmann.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7371CED26; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 21:03:29 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: Flag for detecting 802.11r Fast BSS Transition support From: Marcel Holtmann In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:54:46 +0200 Cc: Johannes Berg , Matthew Wang , linux-wireless , Kirtika Ruchandani , j@w1.fi Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Message-Id: <7687225C-D965-479E-BAE8-769B0AEADD76@holtmann.org> References: <20190403210200.GA93453@google.com> <211816ff03cf188d834a21b1fbc98b4f8c5b81f4.camel@sipsolutions.net> To: Brian Norris X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Hi Brian, >> So I guess you'd have to figure out what operations the drivers need to >> support then? I'm not even sure how wpa_s would handle this for SME >> offload devices. > > I'm not intimately familiar with FT, but it looks like the only thing > wpa_supplicant is asking for is NL80211_CMD_UPDATE_FT_IES. I see > exactly one driver that implements this, but there's no flag for it. > Well, I guess we could just run the command and look for EOPNOTSUPP... this kind of API design and usage is bad. Try-and-error approach is just not sustainable. Even while it is late to add a proper flag that indicates support, we need to do this to make nl80211 better for the future. Regards Marcel