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Miller" , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Oleg Nesterov , Davidlohr Bueso , Michael Ellerman , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Subject: Re: [patch V2 11/15] completion: Use simple wait queues In-Reply-To: <20200319003351.GA211584@google.com> References: <20200318204302.693307984@linutronix.de> <20200318204408.521507446@linutronix.de> <20200319003351.GA211584@google.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:44:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87a74ddvh1.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Joel, Joel Fernandes writes: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:43:13PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote: >> The spinlock in the wait queue head cannot be replaced by a raw_spinlock >> because: >> >> - wait queues can have custom wakeup callbacks, which acquire other >> spinlock_t locks and have potentially long execution times > > Cool, makes sense. > >> - wake_up() walks an unbounded number of list entries during the wake up >> and may wake an unbounded number of waiters. > > Just to clarify here, wake_up() will really wake up just 1 waiter if all the > waiters on the queue are exclusive right? So in such scenario at least, the > "unbounded number of waiters" would not be an issue if everything waiting was > exclusive and waitqueue with wake_up() was used. Please correct me if I'm > wrong about that though. Correct. > So the main reasons to avoid waitqueue in favor of swait (as you mentioned) > would be the sleep-while-atomic issue in truly atomic context on RT, and the > fact that callbacks can take a long time. Yes. Thanks, tglx