Received: by 2002:a05:6902:102b:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id x11csp1397866ybt; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:49:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzQOGeQr2PY9dJAtki8HXrCXObpaPG/41YQTW2oP9A03m6MmBy8fU/dOpxPxiazKyDqiWcp X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:abca:: with SMTP id kq10mr4458600ejb.390.1592491776842; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:49:36 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1592491776; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=eBZsu9p7CV6KVQ3tJ7vLXDR58ppRx9U17CEbnRLIgP9UjxjgeYr32XwY1MONGxsStP JZD7vjD+W3PkZB9GCsjvpcFYCe7ndXsocXwqgG+oCZAPyY0jy8e7RujW/NeCh8Ray7T7 0Aa60ggFLIFhi8VVAWm+hxk888M188rzxsG+bG/MeXOJ/HqbDO4X6Xi11Aybk05EyDM/ rSSJfrs8nhttx+CiSQCVfHh+hUHPwVWkqUOdN2tI6BUSrs4ytKJ09NaJFYaASvuA9Ncj h/B1fEiz5wYNZ+1e9P1Hx3ORRS1R1sig+AxoIdMZKu5PZdUq6NLvaFP/MHrca95Ipajx Iz/A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject :message-id; bh=TB2WM1sO3MZ6cptSB5Scq+GvA29JfqSJNy8pZxiYI1A=; b=SJkHpG1oJeoFpGIZkYanC594WYiWgBYqvVPoZ0HTUHurq5y779xsj3dkUA8ONGBwq5 C/R2Kto0OLX73qegNpeueKBMTy5hZi/omMgsdXaLy6cCSahl47CQQ4G2q0e+gKNmCpVk StE5ec7r1/hV97VmkBEI22cVC1biy2U2gRYGKf3eDVgCn7YO1lrfoapRWCiqQnR+MvId 8NvQBL1BJOjtNWS1pHw+pLYAT53L31YI92B6DpIccSpFSyxdsDajuC/VpLzbL36qqWIq qCT4fRX8iFIwfnrX6Uqm+SV2kRayg5xz3iW+KHHuUpZSiI2a2Op5lryZeH6yXi9Ysffx rabw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 36si2207856edp.290.2020.06.18.07.49.13; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730806AbgFROsY (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:48:24 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58056 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725982AbgFROsW (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:48:22 -0400 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:4433::2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD76FC06174E for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1jlvq0-007l0e-5k; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:48:20 +0200 Message-ID: <6da8757ac90a4d34ed1bdc7c84b40aac06c01af9.camel@sipsolutions.net> Subject: Re: [PATCH] mac80211: Send deauth to STA's upon AP stop From: Johannes Berg To: Shay Bar Cc: "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:48:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20200618093609.16514-1-shay.bar@celeno.com> (sfid-20200618_113627_790574_4007E613) <2a7b33ace030fdeda96e60b2abd6c70a11f426e0.camel@sipsolutions.net> <54236bdd708c53ec2f2a776bb3badcd77c7fecc6.camel@sipsolutions.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.3 (3.36.3-1.fc32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2020-06-18 at 14:45 +0000, Shay Bar wrote: > > So... why would you ever do that? :) > > johannes > > :) > Is it illegal to do "ifconfig down" or kill hostapd > while STA's are still associated? > There are some vendors/users that are doing that. It's not really *illegal* per se, but it would be weird if both did it ... But I do tend to think that if you're using hostapd or such to control it, you shouldn't do another out-of-band control. > Regarding Ben's proposal of using 11k/v, I couldn’t find such > "going down" single frame in the standard (although sounds trivial) Broadcast deauth :) johannes