Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:9848:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id x8csp2359102pxf; Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:04:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx4nweW2ZOybNRtSd0rqshhNmIyrLuFU3cfSVEx/LeBuzSnwk3EGK8GZF4Kb8lZsNEUmoBn X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:dd6:: with SMTP id p22mr11472470eji.111.1616270674424; Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:04:34 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1616270674; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=OW/zE7A8IKUVATpAu92R71bM9L9J5TT30XkaKrHIDkMfyUaC/1JXtKpusItmYgsY2f /5xGK/51AStefaZRbYVY3OW1my47G0mmrgOi5tGU/3VCfZAg8ZxAZ8hQ1zKLDwuqO0rv Az5iwV4/nrSkZBd8tagtdUocTsQhuFKTU5bPJ0E3BiMN76kxqq432LzKAD0uJ19TPhJG 6NmW677hwrs0Ls9G+/eC2jk02MZhm9ieiQPLFPaHukvWjI0Ep788gVkmwMONiubFHQHA RK2DDBe5yEtpHd/d+vpDqUpmXq1jKOeG7qnflNuhLr2vW8lAV0UIkTdf1i0pcvGhsVEm nC9Q== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:date:to:from:subject:message-id; bh=v5uwKv7XI/VgY4lhASCW8jdi5TR4KaCpbLtpnFFrTBU=; b=LAFjkMIKcWwGyay67q2B80W/AgAsLvbOLC6GsCxaIqCGI/T3/tFyGPffCH6nndFiSG Oa9pwZrSNOD2+/zZnv7LYjxeV1fAr6S7I2NkrpbIlBw50K0PVZDhkzsggPb65l1ZkC0r uO27myKEN5z711iZSXmcsx+qkdsxmtlCuMjxegRjEWEmrm+1tYWqg5ZaC/VCGNOlMQkA ACpfoSmDZeURz2x+gAA2g01v+nV/ka2I4hkiLcBDTdLnNLfq8xfGxVe3aczWLektApUW Jc32guePPu/kznquiDYg3zLDiAvK8JsyflPoxeBz7NwdYhPgS1dA5zAmS1720FA3ZMGO dMGA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g4si7189243ejp.171.2021.03.20.13.04.09; Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229846AbhCTT7X (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 20 Mar 2021 15:59:23 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:38980 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229780AbhCTT6v (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Mar 2021 15:58:51 -0400 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:4433::2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2A74C061574 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2021 12:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1lNhkH-00139a-Gl; Sat, 20 Mar 2021 20:58:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] mac80211: don't apply flow control on management frames From: Johannes Berg To: Toke =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 20:58:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h7l6adht.fsf@toke.dk> References: <20210319232800.0e876c800866.Id2b66eb5a17f3869b776c39b5ca713272ea09d5d@changeid> <87h7l6adht.fsf@toke.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.38.4 (3.38.4-1.fc33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-malware-bazaar: not-scanned Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2021-03-20 at 01:13 +0100, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > One consequence of this is that we create a strict priority queue for > management frames. Yes, for iwlwifi that's actually a change. For everyone else (not setting BUFF_MMPDU_TXQ or STA_MMPDU_TXQ) it already is since it goes directly to ->tx() and from there to the hardware queue(s). > With all the possibilities for badness (such as the > ability of starving all other queues) that carries with it. I guess > that's probably fine for management frames, though, right? As in, there > is some other mechanism that prevents abuse of this? Well, there's just not that many management frames to start with? And only wpa_supplicant (or root in general) can create them. So I don't think we need to worry about that yet. With QoS-mgmt frames we might eventually want to think about that, but even there I'd say we never really want to drop them. johannes