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[35.233.189.249]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t2-20020a056a0021c200b004faa4646fc1sm7770294pfj.36.2022.03.25.13.36.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 20:36:05 +0000 From: William McVicker To: Johannes Berg Cc: Jakub Kicinski , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Marek Szyprowski , Kalle Valo , "David S. Miller" , netdev@vger.kernel.org, Amitkumar Karwar , Ganapathi Bhat , Xinming Hu , kernel-team@android.com, Paolo Abeni Subject: Re: [BUG] deadlock in nl80211_vendor_cmd Message-ID: References: <0000000000009e9b7105da6d1779@google.com> <99eda6d1dad3ff49435b74e539488091642b10a8.camel@sipsolutions.net> <5d5cf050-7de0-7bad-2407-276970222635@quicinc.com> <19e12e6b5f04ba9e5b192001fbe31a3fc47d380a.camel@sipsolutions.net> <20220325094952.10c46350@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HK_RANDOM_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On 03/25/2022, William McVicker wrote: > On 03/25/2022, Johannes Berg wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-03-25 at 09:49 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:04:23 +0100 Johannes Berg wrote: > > > > So we can avoid the potential deadlock in cfg80211 in a few ways: > > > > > > > > 1) export rtnl_lock_unregistering_all() or maybe a variant after > > > > refactoring the two versions, to allow cfg80211 to use it, that way > > > > netdev_run_todo() can never have a non-empty todo list > > > > > > > > 2) export __rtnl_unlock() so cfg80211 can avoid running > > > > netdev_run_todo() in the unlock, personally I like this less because > > > > it might encourage random drivers to use it > > > > > > > > 3) completely rework cfg80211's locking, adding a separate mutex for > > > > the wiphy list so we don't need to acquire the RTNL at all here > > > > (unless the ops need it, but there's no issue if we don't drop it), > > > > something like https://p.sipsolutions.net/27d08e1f5881a793.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I'm happy with 3) now (even if it took a couple of hours), so I > > > > think we can go with it, just need to go through all the possibilities. > > > > > > I like 3) as well. FWIW a few places (e.g. mlx5, devlink, I think I've > > > seen more) had been converting to xarray for managing the "registered" > > > objects. It may be worth looking into if you're re-doing things, anyway. > > > > > > > That's not a bad idea, but I think I wouldn't want to backport that, so > > separately :) I don't think that fundamentally changes the locking > > properties though. > > > > > > Couple of more questions I guess: First, are we assuming that the > > cfg80211 code *is* actually broken, even if it looks like nothing can > > cause the situation, due to the empty todo list? > > I'm able to reproduce this issue pretty easily with a Pixel 6 when I add > support to allow vendor commands to request for the RTNL. For this case, I just > delay unlocking the RTNL until nl80211_vendor_cmds() at which point I check the > flags to see if I should unlock before calling doit(). That allows me to run my > tests again and hit this issue. I imagine that I could hit this issue without > any changes if I re-work my vendor ops to not need the RTNL. > > > > > Given that we have rtnl_lock_unregistering() (and also > > rtnl_lock_unregistering_all()), it looks like we *do* in fact at least > > not want to make an assumption that no user of __rtnl_unlock() can have > > added a todo item. > > > > I mean, there's technically yet *another* thing we could do - something > > like this: > > > > [this doesn't compile, need to suitably make net_todo_list non-static] > > --- a/net/core/rtnetlink.c > > +++ b/net/core/rtnetlink.c > > @@ -95,6 +95,7 @@ void __rtnl_unlock(void) > > > > defer_kfree_skb_list = NULL; > > > > + WARN_ON(!list_empty(&net_todo_list)); > > mutex_unlock(&rtnl_mutex); > > > > while (head) { > > > > and actually that would allow us to get rid of rtnl_lock_unregistering() > > and rtnl_lock_unregistering_all() simply because we'd actually guarantee > > the invariant that when the RTNL is freshly locked, the list is empty > > (by guaranteeing that it's always empty when it's unlocked, since it can > > only be added to under RTNL). > > > > With some suitable commentary, that might also be a reasonable thing? > > __rtnl_unlock() is actually rather pretty rare, and not exported. > > > > > > However, if you don't like that ... > > > > I've been testing with this patch, to make lockdep complain: > > > > --- a/net/core/dev.c > > +++ b/net/core/dev.c > > @@ -9933,6 +9933,11 @@ void netdev_run_todo(void) > > if (!list_empty(&list)) > > rcu_barrier(); > > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_LOCKDEP > > + rtnl_lock(); > > + __rtnl_unlock(); > > +#endif > > + > > while (!list_empty(&list)) { > > struct net_device *dev > > = list_first_entry(&list, struct net_device, todo_list); > > > > > > That causes lockdep to complain for cfg80211 even if the list *is* in > > fact empty. > > > > Would you be open to adding something like that? Perhaps if I don't just > > do the easy rtnl_lock/unlock, but try to find the corresponding lockdep- > > only things to do there, to cause lockdep to do things without really > > locking? OTOH, the locking overhead of the RTNL we just unlocked is > > probably minimal, vs. the actual work *lockdep* is doing to track all > > this ... > > > > Thanks, > > johannes > > Let me know if you'd like me to test any patches out. > > Thanks, > Will Hi Johannes, I found that my wlan driver is using the vendor commands to create/delete NAN interfaces for this Android feature called Wi-Fi aware [1]. Basically, this features allows users to discover other nearby devices and allows them to connect directly with one another over a local network. To get my driver working again, I first had to allow the kernel to let my driver request for the RTNL lock for these NAN create/delete interface vendor commands. With that I got the following code path: Thread 1 Thread 2 nl80211_pre_doit(): rtnl_lock() wiphy_lock() nl80211_pre_doit(): rtnl_lock() // blocked by Thread 1 nl80211_vendor_cmd(): doit() cfg80211_unregister_netdevice() rtnl_unlock(): netdev_run_todo(): __rtnl_unlock() wiphy_lock() // blocked by Thread 1 rtnl_lock(); // DEADLOCK nl80211_post_doit(): wiphy_unlock(); Since I'm unlocking the RTNL inside nl80211_vendor_cmd() after calling doit() instead of waiting till post_doit(), I get into the situation you mentioned where the net_todo_list is not empty when calling rtnl_unlock. So I decided to drop the rtnl_unlock() in nl80211_vendor_cmd() and defer that until nl80211_post_doit() after calling wiphy_unlock(). With this change, I haven't been able to reproduce the deadlock. So it's possible that we aren't actually able to hit this deadlock in nl80211_pre_doit() with the existing code since, as you mentioned, one wouldn't be able to call unregister_netdevice() without having the RTNL lock. Sorry if I sent you down a rabbit hole with the first code path scenario. Thanks, Will [1] https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/wifi-aware