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To: Kalle Valo , Peter Robinson Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Alvin_=C5=A0ipraga?= , Konrad Dybcio , Hector Martin , "~postmarketos/upstreaming@lists.sr.ht" <~postmarketos/upstreaming@lists.sr.ht>, "martin.botka@somainline.org" , "angelogioacchino.delregno@somainline.org" , "marijn.suijten@somainline.org" , "jamipkettunen@somainline.org" , Arend van Spriel , Franky Lin , Hante Meuleman , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Marek Vasut , "Zhao, Jiaqing" , "Russell King (Oracle)" , Soon Tak Lee , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@broadcom.com" , "SHA-cyfmac-dev-list@infineon.com" , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 10:20 AM Kalle Valo wrote: > Thanks, this was a good read! I'm always interested about user and > downstream feedback, both good and bad :) But I didn't get the Stockholm > syndrome comment in the end, what does he mean with that? That refers to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome What I think Peter means is we can't have a situation where the community is held hostage by low quality wireless vendors and even start sympathize with their development process and level of support. > BTW we have a wireless workshop in netdevconf 0x16, it would be great to > have there a this kind of session discussing user pain points: > > https://netdevconf.info/0x16/session.html?Wireless-Workshop I added Peter to the thread. Yours, Linus Walleij