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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m3-20020aa7d343000000b0049e76c617c5si1296159edr.253.2023.01.19.11.34.12; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@sipsolutions.net header.s=mail header.b=FV1g6Pez; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=sipsolutions.net Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231199AbjASTXp (ORCPT + 63 others); Thu, 19 Jan 2023 14:23:45 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:40008 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231252AbjASTX1 (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Jan 2023 14:23:27 -0500 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:4433::2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4EFF268C for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:22:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sipsolutions.net; s=mail; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=lPcw3wh42izqPHhmTuOAkPASEaPRFwadcy3FCBLeprQ=; t=1674156153; x=1675365753; b=FV1g6PezaBcCUhe+Lo+jhePQI/Z6fAAfmLAEDRHGFIx9UYC WeXtHcTasOMq/oNlHn3DEyg81avzM+8CS9UIeYkYHbyUy04wvGEroXKtrYxNj8cgiGVrGV9H1I+ys teN/OfzzJ7WgJsA9mV3TPXheWayT6lgfLQ/lCva+e1x5QM0JQdqUwlDEI8JaCyVhIDoQI9uQ/pLt7 9W+X5lQXCQqclO8WnCBNOntQZfOYOWZpwIxYRzu8HV1tu5xxldpTTy2AXLpb63ccfoH/UqNGwl8U/ xiHGLhNxK3SdOAIxqoCuN+jfKC+5x2dChAa74c3untTl7saH6/0OHCN+DKYPO4vw==; Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1pIaUX-006coq-29; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 20:22:29 +0100 Message-ID: <1592b9b4354d67c104d2782915e1a66d0a972b92.camel@sipsolutions.net> Subject: Re: every other wireless scan shows bogus (too low) signal strengths From: Johannes Berg To: Bruno Dantas , Julian Calaby Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 20:22:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <90bb34e9-4e83-dcc2-91f2-e6f28ddbcc73@airpost.net> References: <80556c56e69405d7c8f8bc3d57e2ba697074c660.camel@sipsolutions.net> <9093c08e-302d-578c-3e16-619d238b4022@airpost.net> <90bb34e9-4e83-dcc2-91f2-e6f28ddbcc73@airpost.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.3 (3.46.3-1.fc37) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-malware-bazaar: not-scanned X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 10:21 -0500, Bruno Dantas wrote: >=20 > Maybe doing a wifi network scan requires more power than just > authenticating with an AP and using the network? And maybe my after- > market 802.11ac adapter requires a bit more power than the 802.11n > adapters that were around when this laptop was made? If so, maybe it > takes this old laptop's PCI bus two attempts before the 802.11ac > adapter has enough power to do an accurate network scan? That's a lot > of maybes, but it's my best guess given the behavior I'm observing. >=20 FWIW - and sorry I didn't get around to answering here earlier - that doesn't really make a lot of sense - we're talking about the report of "received signal strength", which is pretty much unrelated to the power you need to actually receive. But as to what's actually going on I still have no clue either, sorry. johannes