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Subject: Re: wifi: rtw88: questions about adding support for RTL8723DS/RTL8723BS
Date:   Thu, 18 May 2023 19:13:43 +0200
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Dne =C4=8Detrtek, 18. maj 2023 ob 19:00:14 CEST je Martin Blumenstingl napi=
sal(a):
> Hi Ping-Ke,
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> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 4:06=E2=80=AFAM Ping-Ke Shih <pkshih@realtek.com>=
 wrote:
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:40 AM
> > > To: Ping-Ke Shih <pkshih@realtek.com>; linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
> > > Cc: Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>; tony0620emma@gmail.com;=
 jernej.skrabec@gmail.com
> > > Subject: wifi: rtw88: questions about adding support for RTL8723DS/RT=
L8723BS
> > >
> > > Hello Ping-Ke,
> > >
> > > as a next step I want to add support for RTW_WCPU_11N SDIO cards to
> > > the rtw88 driver.
> > > Currently only one RTW_WCPU_11N chip is supported: RTL8723D by the
> > > rtw88 (PCIe and USB HCIs).
> >
> > Originally, we intended to add 8723D to rtlwifi, because it is a 802.11=
n chip
> > and very similar to 8723BE. However, its PCIe HCI is changed to use cir=
cular
> > ring instead of own bit, like other chips implemented in rtw88.
> As far as I can tell such differences are not present in the SDIO HCI
>=20
> > >
> > > My first question is very hopefully a simple one:
> > > It seems that RTL8723DS has two SDIO IDs: 0xd723 and 0xd724.
> > > Do these have the same name or is there some kind of "revision" (like
> > > rev 2, revision B, ...) internally?
> >
> > 0xd723 is dual antenna, and 0xd724 is single antenna. Since 8723D is a
> > 1x1 WiFi BT combo chip, 0xd723 can have a dedicated antenna for BT.
> > The main difference will be BT-coex code.
> Awesome, thanks for the explanation. I sent patches to add RTL8723DS
> support to the rtw88 driver.
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> > >
> > > My second question is more abstract:
> > > Based on my understanding of the vendor drivers for RTL8723BS and
> > > RTL8723DS both seem very close in terms of registers. initialization
> > > sequence, ...
> > > So I am hoping that it's possible to add RTL8723BS support to the rtw=
88 driver.
> > > There's two main differences that I found so far:
> > > - rtw_dump_hw_feature() doesn't work because REG_C2HEVT has an
> > > incorrect value (C2H_HW_FEATURE_REPORT is expected but it still
> > > contains C2H_HW_FEATURE_DUMP). It seems that this is a firmware issue.
> >
> > Not an issue. At that moment of developing 8723B, applications are simp=
le, so
> > we don't read feature from firmware, so just ignore this for 8723B.
> Jernej also suggested this as a first step. So I guess it's the way to go.
>=20
> [...]
> > > Have you considered adding RTW8723B support to the rtw88 driver?
> > > Do you have some initial suggestions on what would be needed to do so
> > > (is my list from above complete, what do do about these points, ...)?
> >
> > As my comment above, 8723BE use different PCIe design, and rtlwifi
> > has been supported it, so I don't have plan to support 8723BE in rtw88.
> > But, to add 8723BS to rtw88 seems workable.
> >
> > To add 8723B, you can make a copy from 8723D and change settings along
> > with vendor driver. The main things you need to review are:
> > 1. PCI probe when plugging wifi card
> > 2. hardware initialization when interface up
> > 3. RF calibration when starting connection (you may put this work later)
> > 4. connection setting after connected
> > 5. BT-coex you have mentioned
> >
> >
> > To make rtlwifi support SDIO is another way. It seems like add a HCI is
> > easier than an new chip, and we can have a simple support list of rtlwi=
fi
> > and rtw88 eventually, like
> >
> >         rtlwifi       rtw88
> > 8723BE    o
> > 8723BS    o?
> > 8723DE                  o
> > 8723DS                  o
> Per chip support matrix is:
> 8723BE: rtlwifi
> 8723BU: rtl8xxxu
> 8723BS: staging driver which I'd like to replace
> 8723DE/U/S: rtw88
>=20
> HCI support matrix:
> rtlwifi: PCIe, USB
> rtl8xxxu: USB
> rtw88: PCIe, USB and SDIO
>=20
> So it seems you are right: I should consider whether adding RTL8723BS
> support to rtw88 is the right choice.

While rtw88 might not be best choice by above matrix, it seems to be most
featureful, stable and at least from what I saw, easiest to add new variant=
s.

I'll do a bit of experiment with rtw88 to see how hard it would be...

Best regards,
Jernej