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[142.68.25.194]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q17-20020a0ce211000000b006362d4eeb6esm956869qvl.144.2023.07.11.05.05.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 11 Jul 2023 05:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgg by wakko with local (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1qJC74-0008zp-Q7; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 09:05:02 -0300 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 09:05:02 -0300 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Jakub Kicinski , Mina Almasry , John Hubbard , Dan Williams , David Ahern , Jesper Dangaard Brouer , brouer@redhat.com, Alexander Duyck , Yunsheng Lin , davem@davemloft.net, pabeni@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Lorenzo Bianconi , Yisen Zhuang , Salil Mehta , Eric Dumazet , Sunil Goutham , Geetha sowjanya , Subbaraya Sundeep , hariprasad , Saeed Mahameed , Leon Romanovsky , Felix Fietkau , Ryder Lee , Shayne Chen , Sean Wang , Kalle Valo , Matthias Brugger , AngeloGioacchino Del Regno , Jesper Dangaard Brouer , Ilias Apalodimas , linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, Jonathan Lemon Subject: Re: Memory providers multiplexing (Was: [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag) Message-ID: References: <5e0ac5bb-2cfa-3b58-9503-1e161f3c9bd5@kernel.org> <20230711042708.GA18658@lst.de> <20230710215906.49514550@kernel.org> <20230711050445.GA19323@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230711050445.GA19323@lst.de> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 07:04:45AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 09:59:06PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 06:27:08 +0200 Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > Not going to comment on the rest of this as it seems bat shit crazy > > > hacks for out of tree junk. Why is anyone even wasting time on this? > > > > Noob question - how does RDMA integrate with the out of tree junk? > > AFAIU it's possible to run the "in-tree" RDMA stack and get "GPU > > direct". > > I don't care and it has absolutel no business being discussed here. > > FYI at leat iWarp is a totally open standard. So is Infiniband, Jakub has a unique definition of "proprietary". RDMA works with the AMD and Intel intree drivers using DMABUF without requiring struct pages using the DRM hacky scatterlist approach. Jason