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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d26-20020a056402079a00b005218239ce17si2796546edy.216.2023.07.19.03.58.46; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 03:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=LLrUl5Bd; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230261AbjGSKiX (ORCPT + 58 others); Wed, 19 Jul 2023 06:38:23 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57458 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231285AbjGSKhv (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Jul 2023 06:37:51 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02B5A11D for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 03:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DFF8613C5 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 904CAC433C7; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:37:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1689763065; bh=fNXKnjOUddOBoxPZLQEvBHhEM0J9YHh1AUWYrBJHiUQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=LLrUl5BdJ6eU0E262jahWLeDYL4v1jWQwqQ3LkAlW8IbUFo+zqie/Zc0rlur/RcwV vfvdndgrxFBcF9ZOXdJnlaT6eDhNoiiC1/yWd/9PqenntBagbdLFlKYvHGRnqRTGt0 XeXUtWNObyJZsfdpxrYHDj6wuZUkl7F6A3aeyacYY4jMMvJ5J3jki6eGvTfTBD2+2b wfNP0YLtSZOT86rcVOzQFDI2Tm9uqgcasyGERKzD+JhtMZiHLy2qc5Aqgd16OQnKua 0vYB7jMfKJOgZZvXO8ArTGdSk41iLcS/3f33qCBtrwiSRXfppZG+ViHIQvtH3a2dfR Y1+wBlHt4Jjgg== From: Kalle Valo To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: , , , Subject: Re: [PATCH] wifi: wilc1000: change firmware path from 'atmel' to 'microchip/wilc' References: <20230630012136.1330784-1-ajay.kathat@microchip.com> <20230705140338.77896d11@kernel.org> <5500a007-4e52-f8dc-2535-3baa7decfe52@microchip.com> <20230705172754.61ca21ae@kernel.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 13:37:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20230705172754.61ca21ae@kernel.org> (Jakub Kicinski's message of "Wed, 5 Jul 2023 17:27:54 -0700") Message-ID: <87cz0o2nm4.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Jakub Kicinski writes: >> In order to address scenario#1, a fallback method that loads the FW from >> the older path(/atmel) can be added in the driver. I think that change >> will make it compatible for scenario#1. >> Please suggest, if there is a generic/recommended approach to handle >> backward compatibility for FW path change. > > I'm afraid you need to request from both new and old patch for some > time. Push the change to linux-firmware, but make driver be compatible > with both for maybe three full releases? Then the risk of someone still > having stale linux-firmware goes down quite a bit. I would say at least minimum of two years, preferably more to make it possible to upgrade kernel on LTS distro releases. > TBH renaming FW paths, much like renaming drivers is usually more risk > than reward. I agree, it's just extra work without no actually benefit. Maybe an exception here is iwlwifi, that should be fixed as that clutters the top level firmware directory with dozens of files: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/ -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches