Received: by 2002:a05:6358:701b:b0:131:369:b2a3 with SMTP id 27csp2351228rwo; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:12:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlG530/g6fd5ejUV1SGtxKr89SP4DaaWB5VBNECSlJynUdNSS/YSyDqBiKR9V9R0O9mj2Vdz X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:1205:b0:1b8:aee8:a21c with SMTP id l5-20020a170903120500b001b8aee8a21cmr9806443plh.31.1690143145302; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:12:25 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1690143145; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=JCvxr+IzFHDQ2Awze/3jERWpTfXDaJrmsYA92jFm+2OjzdEXa4M5QQF2sT4DG9bQm+ XxINE0AQtCVhDtdiJIZl8IrxsQXMwae6ycMC/6brsBiSim0GGcvhkuwxhLZMh1M3di4q HROQqeWvFcfAzKBQ5Pg3BT1BkJE/7synKaoi3ssJJR/BocdLffOkkQ/5qlrlHSLQ2TP0 PitYxjpA7HVm4AudTSJJz9pVzosKQnbf2Sn/RDgUFGovuhPnoEn1W71IqrqzkDQGBX92 FxfnHOa/4S+Xq6zUk8XNEDGBnNPOMorJ5qGheLwazfJQsGsQySWW5eB4MXL5FGGfCDmu z/TA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version :references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=pfnYw5N7+pmZoYdY8ZXzAWx4Yo+DOE1xf/IIxek/V+A=; fh=/XIOhrP3xpZxhC2jjRJMfhrGphiAXVN+Z418bUd5QD0=; b=vz3Rav+SmbK9qzbF8QRMxtqSsnkH04xhZGoRR+rvLM8+pgGTfdG/YsACTzbNXxmGmg 5D132jH9BzaRlLkEfmyG9M8x1aE4gflVjO0aq9n7GUdOMZtbMxdnqC//GquqqUXsFiw3 yrYqDo/Wcz9d66MsySJI+/3mMBJS/Awf2J5NgeU1gRbO6Wc5qg0DMYwNl9LzSwD1iQzO Cf2+j13tOetektAsJUGurFbkURIB8TKZmN5NYuxQXAj0pCyDzT2PD8jCHYzP7wb4kPdy UKWIDgh8C6YQTvy+sOLBi3vQF82OX2hpAYtHAPA0eauvHullEsze0tfsn/DPxM7eCXQ+ o7LA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from out1.vger.email (out1.vger.email. [2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id cp1-20020a170902e78100b001b9c3dc22d8si7223791plb.155.2023.07.23.13.12.13; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229821AbjGWTzc (ORCPT + 58 others); Sun, 23 Jul 2023 15:55:32 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58144 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229644AbjGWTza (ORCPT ); Sun, 23 Jul 2023 15:55:30 -0400 Received: from netrider.rowland.org (netrider.rowland.org [192.131.102.5]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 868EE134 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 12:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1824359 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Jul 2023 15:55:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 15:55:26 -0400 From: Alan Stern To: Oliver Neukum Cc: Wireless mailing list , USB mailing list , PCI mailing list Subject: Re: Nomenclature for USB-connected WiFi devices Message-ID: References: <8ce5288f-9ed2-4df9-a0a2-bb46941089fb@rowland.harvard.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 07:05:40PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote: > On 23.07.23 18:04, Alan Stern wrote: > > If you've got a WiFi device that connects to the host computer via USB, > > do you refer to it as a "wireless USB device" or as a "USB wireless > > device"? > > > > The second would seem to be more logical, by analogy with things like a > > USB mouse or a USB thumbdrive -- we don't say "mouse USB device" or > > "thumbdrive USB device"! > > If you are doing this, why not go to USB WiFi? We want to know what > kind of wireless device it is. Doing that would require more knowledge than I possess. :-) I don't know what kinds of wireless device these different drivers are meant for. Presumably most of them are WiFi, but are all of them? Besides, if the original authors felt it was appropriate to write "wireless USB" instead of "WiFi USB", then most likely they will also feel it is appropriate to change the text to "USB wireless" instead of "USB WiFi". Alan Stern